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100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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Number of items looted - 400
Number of godlies looted - 7 (1.8% rate)
Number of imperials looted - 95 (23.8%)
Number of Godly BT helmets - 0 (0%)
Number of Inperial BT helmets - 0 (0%)
Number of Royal BT helmets - 3 (0.8%)
Number of Godly Skill Rings - 0 (0%)
Number of imperial skill rings - 14 (3.5%)
Number of Royal Skill Rings - 12 (3%)

Number of drops in bank that no one wants 201 (50.3%)
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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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I feel as though this is a pretty poor representation of drop rates. As we all know there have been changes made. There is a guaranteed imperial drop and helm drop rates have been increased. I can say with absolute certainty that if you type out the drop rates both pre and post buffs then compare that they are worlds apart from one another
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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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Ventius wrote:I feel as though this is a pretty poor representation of drop rates. As we all know there have been changes made. There is a guaranteed imperial drop and helm drop rates have been increased. I can say with absolute certainty that if you type out the drop rates both pre and post buffs then compare that they are worlds apart from one another


I have them tracked pre and post buffs. Will post later.
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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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Ventius wrote:I feel as though this is a pretty poor representation of drop rates. As we all know there have been changes made. There is a guaranteed imperial drop and helm drop rates have been increased. I can say with absolute certainty that if you type out the drop rates both pre and post buffs then compare that they are worlds apart from one another


If 100 kills -400 drops isnt representative, what is???

Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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Sunbrook wrote:
Ventius wrote:I feel as though this is a pretty poor representation of drop rates. As we all know there have been changes made. There is a guaranteed imperial drop and helm drop rates have been increased. I can say with absolute certainty that if you type out the drop rates both pre and post buffs then compare that they are worlds apart from one another


If 100 kills -400 drops isnt representative, what is???

Agreed.
400 drops is nowhere near a large enough sample to get the results of multiple permutations on the formula, but it's what the sample size should have to be to see noticeable trends and results. If the only time the drop rates are balanced and achieve the desired results is across 19 servers over multiple years, then the drop rates are in need of a change.

To say the drops are balanced when looking at all servers is blindly looking at the drop rates. Reasonableness for drop rates should match the drop rates seen by a player within a reasonable amount of time.
If 1 years isn't enough to get an idea then we should have a debate over what is a reasonable amount of time.
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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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bob the mage wrote:
Sunbrook wrote:
Ventius wrote:I feel as though this is a pretty poor representation of drop rates. As we all know there have been changes made. There is a guaranteed imperial drop and helm drop rates have been increased. I can say with absolute certainty that if you type out the drop rates both pre and post buffs then compare that they are worlds apart from one another


If 100 kills -400 drops isnt representative, what is???

but it's what the sample size should have to be to see noticeable trends and results.

Not according to some lol. 400 is a good sample size and it’s quite easy to pick up on obvious trends on what’s common, what isn’t common, and what’s flat out rare. The bigger the sample size gets the more specific you can get with results. Good job Swee for putting together this info
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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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I'm confused, is this 100 kills post-tweaks or total? If it's both, then there's 2 different formulas represented, a smaller effective sample size for each, and skewing overlap...
Also, I like the stats, but the categories confused me a bit. I kinda would've liked to see it broken down:
Godly/Imperial/Royal overall
Helms/rings/Ammies/Miscs (Godly/imp/royal for each category), and then which categories are used most; Ex what % of rings are being used/in bank, etc...

I think this would actually be a nice breakdown for VR to understand what is(n't) useful etc.

Edit: not to belittle the legwork done above, nice job keeping up with it all! :D Just thought clarification/specificity would be useful for this
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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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Mind wrote:I'm confused, is this 100 kills post-tweaks or total? If it's both, then there's 2 different formulas represented, a smaller effective sample size for each, and skewing overlap...
Also, I like the stats, but the categories confused me a bit. I kinda would've liked to see it broken down:
Godly/Imperial/Royal overall
Helms/rings/Ammies/Miscs (Godly/imp/royal for each category), and then which categories are used most; Ex what % of rings are being used/in bank, etc...

I think this would actually be a nice breakdown for VR to understand what is(n't) useful etc.

Edit: not to belittle the legwork done above, nice job keeping up with it all! :D Just thought clarification/specificity would be useful for this

Swee has a sheet that is constantly being updated with all of the drops for each drop type he has shared quite a lot, leme see if I can get him to repost it here for those curious as to the rest of it.
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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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Sweefish wrote:Number of items looted - 400
Number of godlies looted - 7 (1.8% rate)
Number of imperials looted - 95 (23.8%)
Number of Godly BT helmets - 0 (0%)
Number of Inperial BT helmets - 0 (0%)
Number of Royal BT helmets - 3 (0.8%)
Number of Godly Skill Rings - 0 (0%)
Number of imperial skill rings - 14 (3.5%)
Number of Royal Skill Rings - 12 (3%)

Number of drops in bank that no one wants 201 (50.3%)


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Re: 100 BLoodthorn kills by the numbers

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Jonlionhartff7 wrote:
Sweefish wrote:Number of items looted - 400
Number of godlies looted - 7 (1.8% rate)
Number of imperials looted - 95 (23.8%)
Number of Godly BT helmets - 0 (0%)
Number of Inperial BT helmets - 0 (0%)
Number of Royal BT helmets - 3 (0.8%)
Number of Godly Skill Rings - 0 (0%)
Number of imperial skill rings - 14 (3.5%)
Number of Royal Skill Rings - 12 (3%)

Number of drops in bank that no one wants 201 (50.3%)


WOW!!! Congrats!!! This is amazing!!!

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No part of it is :lol:
That’s whole point.
In 100 kills we have gotten nothing worth mentioning besides one godly ranger charm.
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