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Re: Ice Dragon or Ice Phoenix?

#4
Dragon 100%
-) crit skill bump has a noticeable impact on crits. This isn’t alone enough to justify the pet but does go to amplify what it can do
-) skill - the skill is actually pretty powerful and does consistent decent damage.

Phoenix on the other hand doesn’t really have too much going for it past the stats. The small focus bump doesn’t do anything at EG, as any EG mage most likely has more than 2500 focus and is thus past the point of diminishing return. Secondly, the small “lure” “bump “ isn’t drastic enough to help dps, and certainly doesn’t increase dps by more than dragon does dps. Only exception I can think to this is the caustic Phoenix for melee dps like warriors.

Overall how I usually split the difference is if you want to go for top notch dps, nothing beats the dragon in the game atm, it’s the all around best, but if you are more casual of a player or you prefer support roles or even a hybrid split play style, the Phoenix provides good stats and is a decent pet for support and dps play styles.
I personally prefer DPS mage so I would choose dragon, but both are decent options.
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Re: Ice Dragon or Ice Phoenix?

#5
Dragon 100%
-) crit skill bump has a noticeable impact on crits. This isn’t alone enough to justify the pet but does go to amplify what it can do
-) skill - the skill is actually pretty powerful and does consistent decent damage.

Phoenix on the other hand doesn’t really have too much going for it past the stats. The small focus bump doesn’t do anything at EG, as any EG mage most likely has more than 2500 focus and is thus past the point of diminishing return. Secondly, the small “lure” “bump “ isn’t drastic enough to help dps, and certainly doesn’t increase dps by more than dragon does dps. Only exception I can think to this is the caustic Phoenix for melee dps like warriors.

Overall how I usually split the difference is if you want to go for top notch dps, nothing beats the dragon in the game atm, it’s the all around best, but if you are more casual of a player or you prefer support roles or even a hybrid split play style, the Phoenix provides good stats and is a decent pet for support and dps play styles.
I personally prefer DPS mage so I would choose dragon, but both are decent options.

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Re: Ice Dragon or Ice Phoenix?

#7
If your clan/server doesnt have any/many ice phoenix then the phoenix will be the biggest dps boost for you without a doubt. If your server has a few active ice phoenix to where there is a regular lure on bosses then the dragon is the one for you.

Dragon is purely a dps pet where the phoenix is a far more well rounded pet. I would like to say that from my experience the crit boost only has a fairly minimal increase

I would be interested to know what a max ability phoenix skill hits and how it compares to a phoenix. I cant imagine that the damage differs too greatly
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Re: Ice Dragon or Ice Phoenix?

#9
I would say dragon. My 221 fire mage has max fire dragon with maxed ability. Hits almost 4k on skill, plus all the added stat an crit boost. Crit boost does seem to help me quite abit.
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Re: Ice Dragon or Ice Phoenix?

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If your clan/server doesnt have any/many ice phoenix then the phoenix will be the biggest dps boost for you without a doubt. If your server has a few active ice phoenix to where there is a regular lure on bosses then the dragon is the one for you.

Dragon is purely a dps pet where the phoenix is a far more well rounded pet. I would like to say that from my experience the crit boost only has a fairly minimal increase

I would be interested to know what a max ability phoenix skill hits and how it compares to a phoenix. I cant imagine that the damage differs too greatly
The DPS gap in the skills is actually quite large since the Phoenix maxes at around 1300 dmg (1920 ability and at 1260 dmg) every 25sec, VS dragon around 2k? Every 15sec. Not really sure how poison dragon vs Phoenix compare though, I think poison dmg Phoenix has slightly nerfed dmg but I’m not certain.
Phoenix is obviously better though because of the lure, I’d go with it always even if your clan already has several of that colour
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