LadyNymeria wrote:Soccer wrote:LadyNymeria wrote:
Once a clan disbands there's simply noway to sell or distribute fairly anyway so idk what's the point of the argument because of course the one that holds the access can do as they see fit. Non corrupt leaders should at least have a discussion about this before a clan disbands with their members. Perhaps pass the items over to the next clan that majority goes too would be the best solution.
Unless the general hijacks banks out of nowhere then that's different .
You're just bringing up worst case situations at this point in your prejudice against clans and it's off topic from what the thread intended.
Exactly! Most reasons for a clan breakup would result in the unfair distribution of items to clan generals (those who have access to banks as you plainly put it). Thank you for admitting that.
You cannot simply discount such a possibility because you don't have enough foresight to appreciate how things can go wrong even when everyone is trying to make things right.
How can you tell your clanmates to their faces that their gear is not theirs after all the time and effort they put in and then say in the case of a breakup of any kind, it is ok to accept that there would be unfair distribution of gear because it'd be too hard to distribute it fairly and that people with bank access would ultimately have final say on bank content?
So yes, this very much does tie in with the OP.
Okay I see your point of view now.
This goes back to the agreement to trade in and up on gear and pass down to other members vs keeping it just to sit unused in an inventory. Bank gear on the other hand is gear no one wants or needs.
Clan members have been very vocal when people have sold off gear. We used to just tell them they can't win that gear again since they obviously didn't need it to begin with if they chose to sell.
But Ascension as a whole doesn't want to play with people who take items over others to sell off ... so we now kick them.
Keep in mind if they leave on their own we don't ask for it back but we just don't want to continue to gear people that will sell it off anyway. There's no point in wasting drops on people who aren't end game minded and just looking to make gold. They're not advancing clan and probably one of the people who don't really want to be in clan to begin with. ..It's just the option they have. It's our option not to keep them.
No, do not put words in my mouth. Trading up gear is fine if it will help the clan, never said anything against that. But players should have a sense of ownership of their currently used gear. Such as when they leave. If not, it goes back to my whole generals owning everything explanation I gave above.