Celtic Heroes

pandanda wrote:

Supernatura1 wrote:While playing CH I got word that one of my clanmates couldn't get to roll on a drop after a boss fight because he didn’t have a good enough Misc item. This wasn’t an isolated incident as apperently he has been denied this privilege before multiple times. Just wanted to know the logic or justification behind this as I can't wrap my head around it. Thanks for any feedback.

What kind of misc and boss?

Zarfus wrote:Here is my 2 cents:
If you show up to a boss like gele with a 160 shop bow, and a bow drops from gele, yeah, they probably shouldn't be able to roll. But i mean like if someone cant find the misc they want, and they have like a 90 recast misc because theyre either farming gold for a better one, or cant find the one they want, but they have like full EDL and some other really good jewelry, why is that 1 misc slot gonna stop someone from rolling?
You should probably know the state of the player who couldn't roll before making judgements.

YURIAN wrote:

Supernatura1 wrote:

YURIAN wrote:1st- If an amazing item drops, we don’t want someone who wore bad gear and didn’t do their fair share killing the boss to win it. If they were allowed to roll, let’s say they rolled 100, and I roll 99, they win, but do they deserve it? No. They wouldn’t have contributed nearly as much as I would’ve to that boss.

I do believe they did their fair share of killing the boss as they were there as long as everyone else so I don't see why wouldn't they deserve it? They made an effort to show up and help and in fact probably invested more resources to contribute to down the boss e.g. idols and restoration potions etc. You doing more damage than another does not take away the contribution of that other person.

YURIAN wrote:2cd- We can kill any boss, we don’t need extra damage 99% of the time, so don’t bother to show up if you can’t come prepared. That’s one less person we have to compete with in rolls anyway.

Is that really a concern? More competition? Many need better gear and a lot of drops are going to those who don't really need it as they have objectively good gear already.

Ok so I get that you aren’t understanding the point, because you continue to make excuses as to why sub-par geared toons deserve the drops eg/qualified toons earned. So I’ll try one last time to explain things.

1. Your argument on using resources/time/etc is ridiculous. If you are dying and using items that much, guess what you aren’t doing? That’s right, helping with the boss. Just because you show up to a boss, doesn’t entitle you to a chance at the drop. Again, if you can’t come to a boss properly geared, save yourself the time and don’t show up, we don’t want you there. Let’s say you show up to a gele with a lvl 100 quiver, I have an eg quiver, and let’s say a void bow drops, you don’t deserve to roll for that bow, you didn’t even bother to come properly geared for an EG boss. “How can I come prepared if I can’t win anything?” Argument is also ridiculous. Epona has a free market. Buy it. You can find EG gear cheap, and gold is not hard to come by. Show up to bosses you do qualify for, and sell the items you win. Try to do your fair share, come prepared, or don’t show up. If we let just anyone roll who used resources and were there the same amount of time, people would be showing up with hero ammys and winning godly blood rings.

2. Yes. Yes. Yes! Competition matters, it always has, always will. Don’t be ridiculous! I’m not saying competition is the most important thing, the most important thing in Epona is Cooperation. And the majority of the server agrees it’s not cool to leech off other people who are doing their fair share. What runs a capitalist market? Competition. What kind of market does Epona have? Capitalist! So what if a toon wins a drop they don’t ‘need’? EG toons or qualified toons win drops and sell them, can you guess why? To earn gold. What does that gold do for them? Buy them better gear/items/lixes. What does that sold gear do for the lower level player? It advances them so that they can also start earning drops and doing the same thing the person they bought the item from does. It’s circular, that’s why capitalism works on Epona.

If you show up with sub-par gear don’t expect to roll, we don’t want someone leeching off boss kills and winning drops. That’s one less person rolling, and a better chance for someone who actually deserves the drop to win it, even if they don’t need it, they can sell it for gold which they do need.

YURIAN wrote:
What kind of market does Epona have? Capitalist! So what if a toon wins a drop they don’t ‘need’? EG toons or qualified toons win drops and sell them, can you guess why? To earn gold. What does that gold do for them? Buy them better gear/items/lixes. What does that sold gear do for the lower level player? It advances them so that they can also start earning drops and doing the same thing the person they bought the item from does. It’s circular, that’s why capitalism works on Epona.

Chaotic wrote:The rules aren't that strict, it isn't like unless you have top tier bt/gele/prot gear you can't roll. Just put on some half decent mid tier event gear and you can roll at any boss including dino.

For less than 2 mill you could fully equip a level 220 with a jewellery page that can roll at bt.

Elfylolz wrote:

Chaotic wrote:The rules aren't that strict, it isn't like unless you have top tier bt/gele/prot gear you can't roll. Just put on some half decent mid tier event gear and you can roll at any boss including dino.

For less than 2 mill you could fully equip a level 220 with a jewellery page that can roll at bt.

^ 2m is literally 1-2 crown wins