bob the mage wrote: Meck wrote: Difinitus wrote:
There is currently a beta test with a small focus group to test new features for the upcoming content update. Due to the scope of the test, we were not able to extend an invitation to everyone and reached out to some players based on criteria we felt best suited the current situation. There is no point in guessing what those variables are. If we didn't reach out to you, we may still contact you should we chose to increase the scope of the current or future tests.
If you are interested in increasing the likelihood of being selected for focus tests like these, then interacting with the community on the forums and having a positive influence with players in game is your best bet.
We hope to release the update ASAP, as we've gotten some really good feedback from our testers already. I'll be able to share more info once we're more confident with the changes.
Thanks for your understanding!
Understandable on that side but not everyone has time or would want to be active on the forums as there not a lot going on, most people contribute ingame to bossing constantly and testing stratergies to find the best one for their clans.
If you don’t have time for forums now how would you have time for a few hours a day of beta tests combined with a few hours spent on line group/forums discussing content and working on changes?
Beta is a super time intensive process and most of us during the heat of it spend 5+ hours on beta related stuff every day. At the same time many of us are still active on live game and on the forums. Community involvement on forums is an indicator to how willing and able players are to go beyond just logging for bosses in live and doing extra work for the community.
While it would be cool if every able player could be in beta, that’s unrealistic and it’s better to go for those only who actually have the time and ability to do it.
Also most of the beta stuff goes on in the closed forum group, not online, as it’s mostly discussion on what we’ve seen so player activity on forums is kinda like a resume as to how good you are at using the formulas I suppose.
Being active on the forums in general is completely different to being active on the beta test forum pages, for starters the pages on the beta forum are meant for feedback and pointing out bugs to help VR while general forums are usually used for general discussion, if I was place in a beta forum then id conteibute on what I see and how hard or easy I think the boss is along with anything needs to be nerfed or buffed. When it comes to playing the game I usually spend 14+ hours a day playing the game, killing normal bosses and world bosses. So I put more effort into the game and helping my clan compared to being active on the forums, but thats probs why Ive been the best rogue in my server on multiple occassions and well known by other rogues on other servers before my break from the game (currently back playing). When it comes to playing both in the live game and beta I can easily just dual log and keep times on the live game while playing on the beta.
Just to add I wouldnt say 5+ hours is needed on beta, as you would know bossing isnt tested every hour, there will be a set time for people to log along with assuming that there will be a 20-40min testing period on the boss to gain information. Apart from that people would test every day things in the game to make sure theres no bugs included, making it repetitive testing, this can be done for an hour a day for the whole of beta and would still be good enough to get results.
Also although I can agree that being active on the forums can help at times I wouldnt say it shows how good and willing a player is. Thats like saying someone who puts in 18hours a day into a game but doesnt contribute on the forums isnt as willing as a player who plays a few hours a day in game and is always active on the forums. Id much prefer someone active on the live game in my clan putting in the effort and helping ppl in the clan than having someone who stays on the forums for the most part.
Also I do know how a beta test goes as I have been in multiple in the past, I put 14hrs or more into the live game most days and would pass that onto beta tests when I am in them, all of the work is done ingame to find bugs and test everything available and then it is put into the beta forums for the devs to read and decide what they want to do with that information. I wouldnt say the forums is the main part of beta, they both go hand in hand, when it comes to the discussions in the closed beta forums youll have topics with bugs listed, along with topics from devs to discuss possible nerfs, buffs and things to be added into the live game, all of which can be done daily without spending a lot of time doing so, send a message in the topic, check back every 20mins, easy as that. For those with a pc they can easily have the forums open on their pc while playing in beta and in the live game. I wouldnt say discussing on the forums is difficult as its the easist thing to do in this game. Players in beta imo need knowledge on how to come up with strats for bosses, along with being able to kill all end game content and to contribute with their clannies which goes hand in hand with helping the devs in beta with what they need testing.
And to back this up.. those who have killed every boss know their strats, those who come up with the strats have the knowledge and experience to find out how the current beta bosses can be killed, going through each possible strat which will ultimately bring out bugs in the bosses mechanics, those bugs get fixed before hand instead of being found in the live game if they dont get found in the beta.
And to sum up how you feel that every closed beta applicant should have being active on the forums in their resume id have to greatly disagree, people can be inactive on the forums but very active in game and ehen closed beta occurs become active also in the beta forum as they want to contribute and do their part, so atleast take into account the types of people that are like that as we also want to help the game progress even if we dont come onto the forums 24/7, plus most things said on the forums isnt exactly useful information, the only useful information is in what the devs post which we still check.