best ice mage gear eg
#1what would be the best ice mage gear/ swap for 220+, so as far as armour weps jewelry. have a good day
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Bob The God
Former EG try hard who’s now relaxing midgame on crom.This Bob guy is a guide? Legitimately?
what would be the best ice mage gear/ swap for 220+, so as far as armour weps jewelry. have a good day
Bob The God
Former EG try hard who’s now relaxing midgame on crom.This Bob guy is a guide? Legitimately?
Fire bolt misc isn't ice mage and you're wrong anywaywhat would be the best ice mage gear/ swap for 220+, so as far as armour weps jewelry. have a good day
Okay in this post i’ll legitimatly respond.
The question you are asking is super super super broad, and unfortunately impossible to answer.
The ideal gear is as follows:
Full DG
void wand of lunar shards
CG t10 ice offhand
Godly BT icemage ammy
Godly emberdrake fire bolt misc
Godly nectar brace of ice shards
Godly nectar brace of ice blast
Hotswap-> whatever maximizes DPS for that skill. BT shard ring, then gele rings for rest, prot for lures, and osan for attune, frostieon for e shield etc...
Non hotswap -> godly BT shard rings
Any ice mage who doesn't use firebolt isn't a DPS ice mage, same way any fire mage that doesn't use ice shards isn't a DPS fire mage. A DPS mage needs both shards and bolt, every form of the math, ig testing, and logical overlay spells this out.Fire bolt misc isn't ice mage and you're wrong anyway
True forgot Bt helm, ur right thereFull DG
BT ice shards helm
If a mage is allowed 2+ void wands they should also swap a bolt wand in there as well. I know a decent amount of servers limit how many weapons you can have on a toon so I didn't include that as I didn't feel it reasonable (especially with drop rates), but yes if you can swap for each do it.void wand of lunar shards + Lunar blast for swap
Would go back to whether or not you have access to math I haven't seen yet. As an icemage with a maxed bolt (aka, bolt without attune or prioritized gear) you can hit a 6-8k bolt, especially with full DG. Bolt is a 7 second skill. 7k dmg/7 seconds is 1k per second, +25% gain in DPS is 1250k DPS per second gain. Currently this is higher than the small bump in blast damage given in the new misc since focus doesn't really have any effect for EG DPS mages.Godly bt ice mage misc
Sadly no, double CDR brace set up still wins hands down because the 1000 boost to a skill with poor CD time and long cast time and a small 5% bump in CDR (Assuming godly tier BT CDR ring) just doesn't compete with the new direct damage rings, at least not now with current formulas. The ring sacrifice just doesn't compete unfortunately.Godly mord brace of ice blast
glad to see my autocorrect isn't the only one that hates its userGodly nectar brace of ice blast
No need for a permanent shards gele ring, just isn't needed. Extra skill points are cool, but just drop e shield, doesn't really do much at EG unfortunately. 3 BT shard rings will provide maximum DPS in nonhotswap spot, and then swapping for each skill to get maximum buff delivers the largest DPS.RIngs: . x2 BT shard ring, then gele rings x3 (2 shards, 1 blast. Swap 1 shards and 1 blast gele ring). prot ring for lures, and osan for attune. EITHER remove a BT ring for a permanent BT shards ring OR cd swap a ice shards necro brace with a gele shards ring
Bob The God
Former EG try hard who’s now relaxing midgame on crom.This Bob guy is a guide? Legitimately?
He asked for ice gear not fire so don't include fire gear. Also why are you quoting my ice blast mord brace? CD swapping a shards brace beats not cd swapping it everyday of the weekAny ice mage who doesn't use firebolt isn't a DPS ice mage, same way any fire mage that doesn't use ice shards isn't a DPS fire mage. A DPS mage needs both shards and bolt, every form of the math, ig testing, and logical overlay spells this out.Fire bolt misc isn't ice mage and you're wrong anyway
The pre-BT math says that firebolt misc beats any blast boosting misc, but I will be honest that I haven't crunched the numbers since the new misc, but I doubt that enough of an increase is there to warrant the change. I'll have to ask krummy or someone who crunched the numbers to verify that, but as far as I am aware nothing has changed unless VR updates the underlying formulas for the classes (which would make the massive focus bump on the new misc have a larger chance in the fight)
True forgot Bt helm, ur right thereFull DG
BT ice shards helm
None have dropped though so but ya oopsies
If a mage is allowed 2+ void wands they should also swap a bolt wand in there as well. I know a decent amount of servers limit how many weapons you can have on a toon so I didn't include that as I didn't feel it reasonable (especially with drop rates), but yes if you can swap for each do it.void wand of lunar shards + Lunar blast for swap
Would go back to whether or not you have access to math I haven't seen yet. As an icemage with a maxed bolt (aka, bolt without attune or prioritized gear) you can hit a 6-8k bolt, especially with full DG. Bolt is a 7 second skill. 7k dmg/7 seconds is 1k per second, +25% gain in DPS is 1250k DPS per second gain. Currently this is higher than the small bump in blast damage given in the new misc since focus doesn't really have any effect for EG DPS mages.Godly bt ice mage misc
Sadly no, double CDR brace set up still wins hands down because the 1000 boost to a skill with poor CD time and long cast time and a small 5% bump in CDR (Assuming godly tier BT CDR ring) just doesn't compete with the new direct damage rings, at least not now with current formulas. The ring sacrifice just doesn't compete unfortunately.Godly mord brace of ice blast
The only argument is for fire mages with a godly BT bolt ring as it would be a 10% faster bump, but even then it's a stretch.
glad to see my autocorrect isn't the only one that hates its userGodly nectar brace of ice blast
No need for a permanent shards gele ring, just isn't needed. Extra skill points are cool, but just drop e shield, doesn't really do much at EG unfortunately. 3 BT shard rings will provide maximum DPS in nonhotswap spot, and then swapping for each skill to get maximum buff delivers the largest DPS.RIngs: . x2 BT shard ring, then gele rings x3 (2 shards, 1 blast. Swap 1 shards and 1 blast gele ring). prot ring for lures, and osan for attune. EITHER remove a BT ring for a permanent BT shards ring OR cd swap a ice shards necro brace with a gele shards ring
Ice mages need to use bolt, thus bolt gear needs to be included.He asked for ice gear not fire so don't include fire gear. Also why are you quoting my ice blast mord brace? CD swapping a shards brace beats not cd swapping it everyday of the weekAny ice mage who doesn't use firebolt isn't a DPS ice mage, same way any fire mage that doesn't use ice shards isn't a DPS fire mage. A DPS mage needs both shards and bolt, every form of the math, ig testing, and logical overlay spells this out.Fire bolt misc isn't ice mage and you're wrong anyway
The pre-BT math says that firebolt misc beats any blast boosting misc, but I will be honest that I haven't crunched the numbers since the new misc, but I doubt that enough of an increase is there to warrant the change. I'll have to ask krummy or someone who crunched the numbers to verify that, but as far as I am aware nothing has changed unless VR updates the underlying formulas for the classes (which would make the massive focus bump on the new misc have a larger chance in the fight)
True forgot Bt helm, ur right thereFull DG
BT ice shards helm
None have dropped though so but ya oopsies
If a mage is allowed 2+ void wands they should also swap a bolt wand in there as well. I know a decent amount of servers limit how many weapons you can have on a toon so I didn't include that as I didn't feel it reasonable (especially with drop rates), but yes if you can swap for each do it.void wand of lunar shards + Lunar blast for swap
Would go back to whether or not you have access to math I haven't seen yet. As an icemage with a maxed bolt (aka, bolt without attune or prioritized gear) you can hit a 6-8k bolt, especially with full DG. Bolt is a 7 second skill. 7k dmg/7 seconds is 1k per second, +25% gain in DPS is 1250k DPS per second gain. Currently this is higher than the small bump in blast damage given in the new misc since focus doesn't really have any effect for EG DPS mages.Godly bt ice mage misc
Sadly no, double CDR brace set up still wins hands down because the 1000 boost to a skill with poor CD time and long cast time and a small 5% bump in CDR (Assuming godly tier BT CDR ring) just doesn't compete with the new direct damage rings, at least not now with current formulas. The ring sacrifice just doesn't compete unfortunately.Godly mord brace of ice blast
The only argument is for fire mages with a godly BT bolt ring as it would be a 10% faster bump, but even then it's a stretch.
glad to see my autocorrect isn't the only one that hates its userGodly nectar brace of ice blast
No need for a permanent shards gele ring, just isn't needed. Extra skill points are cool, but just drop e shield, doesn't really do much at EG unfortunately. 3 BT shard rings will provide maximum DPS in nonhotswap spot, and then swapping for each skill to get maximum buff delivers the largest DPS.RIngs: . x2 BT shard ring, then gele rings x3 (2 shards, 1 blast. Swap 1 shards and 1 blast gele ring). prot ring for lures, and osan for attune. EITHER remove a BT ring for a permanent BT shards ring OR cd swap a ice shards necro brace with a gele shards ring
Bob The God
Former EG try hard who’s now relaxing midgame on crom.This Bob guy is a guide? Legitimately?
No offense fury but you haven’t played in a bit...Ice = Ice Shards + Ice Blast
Fire = Fire Bolt + Firestorm
Hybrid = Any combo of these with at least one different element
Theres no such thing as a ice mage with fire bolt, or a fire mage with ice shards, its a hybrid.
Bob The God
Former EG try hard who’s now relaxing midgame on crom.This Bob guy is a guide? Legitimately?
Completely missed what I said, and the fact that I don't actively play my mage doesn't mean anything. In fact, I help alot of people with their endgame builds, not just mages... But we'll go past that.No offense fury but you haven’t played in a bit...Ice = Ice Shards + Ice Blast
Fire = Fire Bolt + Firestorm
Hybrid = Any combo of these with at least one different element
Theres no such thing as a ice mage with fire bolt, or a fire mage with ice shards, its a hybrid.
An ice mage can not compete with any form of DPS without using bolt, same way a fire mage cannot compete with any other DPS without shards...
Back in the day this wasn’t really the build, but since tower was introduced, all DPS EG mages have had to build themselves these ways.
A hybrid mage is a DPS mage, and due to attune a hybrid mage either focuses ice or fire and then uses the corresponding AOE and DOT skill, thus due to their necessary leaning they are either fire or ice. A hybrid mage by its original definition is a mage who is in the middle, uses all of the available DPS skills with no real allegiance to an element. This build doesn’t work anymore and is largely outdated, yet some older players still use these builds.
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