I expect to really start a firestorm in the rogue forum. This is what happens when a mage main starts playing his rogue more.
I assume a one minute fight.
In solo play sneaky is only cast once while poison weapon is used for every auto hit. If you spam all other attack skills there are only 10.5 ticks left to auto. (You get this with a stop watch recording the cast, recover and duration time for each skill. (In a group you get 1.3 sneakys but only if you don’t have agro, but you can poison the tank.)
So if I want to put points into a skill how much damage am I getting per point spent?
Well you ignore base damage since that is a gift and only look at the extra damage you get per point. For my toon at the time I did the research I got 27 sneaky per point and 1.5 poison per point.
So If I only get one auto per tick (this makes it easier to adjust for your preferred weapon) my poison does 16 pts damage in a two min fight for each skill point. But, Sneaky only does 27 damage per point while soloing. But if the fight lasts 100 seconds or more, poison catches up and does more since you can’t sneaky again.
If in a group as long as the tank can hold agro I get off more sneakys so 35 damage per point but 31 damage for poison because I buffed the tank. If I can poison a third person like a ranger it goes to 46 and just gets better, but can never do more sneaky because of the 45 sec refresh.
We could conclude that:
In solo mode sneaky is only better than poison if the mob can be killed in less than 100 seconds.
In group mode they are about even if I only poison one more person, but, if I buff more, then poison rocks. It just doesn’t look so impressive.
I hope this made sense but I made one assumption that is actually stupid.
I said you get 10.5 ticks left to auto and assumed you only land one hit in that 5 seconds.
That is a very slow weapon. I went to the pactice dummys and got off 55 punches in 60 seconds or about 5 punches per tick.
Or with 20% haste gloves and a finepoint dagger its 3.6 hits per tick.
With a connach spear unhasted its 1.3 hits per tick.
All you need is a weapon combination that gets you 1.8 hits per 5 seconds and poison will always out dps sneaky per skill point.
Small edit- unless the thing you are fighting is so weak you kill it in less than 20 seconds.
Poison better than sneaky?
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Last edited by Papi on Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Doriz-Ranger 70
"Growing old is for people who have forgotten how to play."