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grudges axe vs spite dagger

#1
Toss out the haste benefit from the spite dagger. And typically both slash and pierce are lured at most bosses, so the physical damage type isn't important here. The question is will the 120 strength boost frenzy enough on damage and attack to be a better offhand than the spite dagger or does the spite dagger still win?
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Zyz wrote:Toss out the haste benefit from the spite dagger. And typically both slash and pierce are lured at most bosses, so the physical damage type isn't important here. The question is will the 120 strength boost frenzy enough on damage and attack to be a better offhand than the spite dagger or does the spite dagger still win?


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Zyz wrote:Toss out the haste benefit from the spite dagger. And typically both slash and pierce are lured at most bosses, so the physical damage type isn't important here. The question is will the 120 strength boost frenzy enough on damage and attack to be a better offhand than the spite dagger or does the spite dagger still win?
if physical damage is taken out of the equation with lures, i would still take spite dagger. Dagger has 120(i think) dex which boosts attack a bit. And 120 poison damage. Whilst it is resisted, 120 str bonus would not even come close to a bonus 120 damage from frenzy. However this str would also boost shatter rupture pummel but would not add as much even with these factored in as spite dagger. Played around and tried with all the oh on my warrior in tower and spite dagger came out on top.

Typing this at 2am so hope it makes sense lol
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betus wrote:
Zyz wrote:Toss out the haste benefit from the spite dagger. And typically both slash and pierce are lured at most bosses, so the physical damage type isn't important here. The question is will the 120 strength boost frenzy enough on damage and attack to be a better offhand than the spite dagger or does the spite dagger still win?
if physical damage is taken out of the equation with lures, i would still take spite dagger. Dagger has 120(i think) dex which boosts attack a bit. And 120 poison damage. Whilst it is resisted, 120 str bonus would not even come close to a bonus 120 damage from frenzy. However this str would also boost shatter rupture pummel but would not add as much even with these factored in as spite dagger. Played around and tried with all the oh on my warrior in tower and spite dagger came out on top.

Typing this at 2am so hope it makes sense lol


Eh, I havn't seen slash lure on a boss since i alted to lure monkey at a proteus a bit back... The only other mage on my server that used that lure went inactive about 5 months ago. I guess it would depend. I'd ask your friendly mage coven on your server to see what kind of lures they be usin.
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Re: grudges axe vs spite dagger

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Spite dagger any day if you were running a dps build. A hybrid however may find the Grudges axe more useful because of the str and vit boost (hybrids tend to lack on str). Plus 35 energy regen is nice and hybrids don't really need a speed boost because their autos won't be that good due to the lack of str.
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