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Re: I need your help! || Data collection for Ice Mage gear ranking

#23
It is definitely a valid point and flaw in my statement however for practical consideration and data test purposes ice is indeed more effected by the cooldown and thus a ring order will be dependent on CD and other gear. Two fairly well established rings can easily be swapped in effectiveness based on CD combinations which isnt as much of a factor with fire gear and thus makes a ranking chart for ice a difficult thing.
What I was trying to get at and based off the topic is that cooldown effects ice gear more not because of longer cooldowns* but rather longer casting times. casting times with ice cause alot of overlap but the amount of overlap is directly related to how they match up with CD percentages as I gave an example of from when i switched between 25 and 30 shards CD. Was def an error in posting haha I got myself a lil sidetracked viewing experimental rather then theoretical data.
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Re: I need your help! || Data collection for Ice Mage gear ranking

#24
It is definitely a valid point and flaw in my statement however for practical consideration and data test purposes ice is indeed more effected by the cooldown and thus a ring order will be dependent on CD and other gear. Two fairly well established rings can easily be swapped in effectiveness based on CD combinations which isnt as much of a factor with fire gear and thus makes a ranking chart for ice a difficult thing.
What I was trying to get at and based off the topic is that cooldown effects ice gear more not because of longer cooldowns* but rather longer casting times. casting times with ice cause alot of overlap but the amount of overlap is directly related to how they match up with CD percentages as I gave an example of from when i switched between 25 and 30 shards CD. Was def an error in posting haha I got myself a lil sidetracked viewing experimental rather then theoretical data.
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UPDATE - 2/26/18 || I need your help! || Data collection for Ice Mage gear ranking

#25
Hey Mages,
I recently took a 20 day vacation away from the game to focus on real life stuff. Edited out stuff to start flame wars

Anyways, I was recently asked on a 3rd party group as to the status of my Ice Mage Gear Ranking, and I have to admit I have not made any progress other than the initial data collection. This week starts midterms for me (yay... :cry: ) so I am unsure of how much time I will have to work on it, but I have spring break ( :D ) the following week and I plan to publish the data then.

Thank you for your patience, and thank you to those who have submitted data for me to look over. If you still wanted to contribute the link is still active.

-Bob
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Re: I need your help! || Data collection for Ice Mage gear ranking

#26
There will never be a 100% accurate when it comes to dps haha i did the servery wish you luck in that regard

For ice consider casting times are significantly longer and thus the impact of CD changes is much higher

A calculator is used to compare an items effect with consideration to the build as a whole (necro rings become replaced by direct rings in effect as you progress and add higher CD and more foc and ability which reduces necro rings effect) which is why its my personal preference, however there are many ways to find how items correspond to different builds.
Doesn't ice magic also plateus so surely the effects of necro rings will drastically vary if u have dg or not?
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Re: I need your help! || Data collection for Ice Mage gear ranking

#27
There will never be a 100% accurate when it comes to dps haha i did the servery wish you luck in that regard

For ice consider casting times are significantly longer and thus the impact of CD changes is much higher

A calculator is used to compare an items effect with consideration to the build as a whole (necro rings become replaced by direct rings in effect as you progress and add higher CD and more foc and ability which reduces necro rings effect) which is why its my personal preference, however there are many ways to find how items correspond to different builds.
Doesn't ice magic also plateus so surely the effects of necro rings will drastically vary if u have dg or not?
Yes, but I wouldn't use drastically. Ice magic damage gains are already pretty low endgame, and like how attack has a moving plateau, so does the accuracy bonus of ice magic as well.
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Re: I need your help! || Data collection for Ice Mage gear ranking

#28
There will never be a 100% accurate when it comes to dps haha i did the servery wish you luck in that regard

For ice consider casting times are significantly longer and thus the impact of CD changes is much higher

A calculator is used to compare an items effect with consideration to the build as a whole (necro rings become replaced by direct rings in effect as you progress and add higher CD and more foc and ability which reduces necro rings effect) which is why its my personal preference, however there are many ways to find how items correspond to different builds.
Doesn't ice magic also plateus so surely the effects of necro rings will drastically vary if u have dg or not?
Yes, but I wouldn't use drastically. Ice magic damage gains are already pretty low endgame, and like how attack has a moving plateau, so does the accuracy bonus of ice magic as well.
That’s not the most accurate way of describing the ice magic role in accuracy of skills. While it does help it plays a much less significant role compared to attack. With 7k fire magic I still have around the same evasions I had at 5k and at 4K. While I may have a slight advantage, the real advantage is the impact it has on my damage.
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Re: I need your help! || Data collection for Ice Mage gear ranking

#30
With 7k fire magic I still have around the same evasions I had at 5k and at 4K. While I may have a slight advantage, the real advantage is the impact it has on my damage.
More importantly it means you have a nice Pierce lure for the DPS ;)
I don’t use pierce lure in current set up. I keep freeze for gele instead as my support skill, but if I ever get DG i’ll prob end up swapping freeze for pierce cuz it’s impossible to run freeze really one DG, and my DPS would be better for Xtals.

While pierce lure helps, it’s the same as expose. Not all rogues use expose, rather barely any do. So why assume all mages should use pierce?
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