Ventius wrote:Yes bob, you out dpsed me unhasted at prot when i would tell you at the start that i wouldnt be going for the kill and only then would you go full try hard. Gz. I have beaten you plenty of times unhasted fyi and if i used to try unhasted always beat you
On a side note, epona and fingal probably have the top few strongest rogues in the game, toothpick on epona and adrohan malcolm on fingal. Both are crazy about stratergy gear swaps and dps. They have prot down to an art and beat hasted great rangers and would certainly beat a top mage like you bob. You really cant base these assumptions on arawn alone. I am the top dps on arawn by a long way and you are also by far the top mage. Arawn doesnt have any great rogues. It used to but that player changed main to a druid a long time ago. idk how you make those findings in regards to who gets kills. It may sorta work like that on arawn but if you go to any different server it is totally different as the rogues are a lot stronger
And the mages cant be that amazing if none of them can beat me at 195/205/210 edl
What gear did I have then?
a dark wand, dg bp, no higher than a majestic gele ring, one imperial necro ring, a imperial mordy bolt brace, a imperial necral storm cdr, a royal bolt misc, and a godly hellfire ammy.
what did you have? godly imperial oblivion, almost godly everything else.
Your gear was almost (other than the few imperials you had) perfect, I was on my way there but no where there.
Now my gear is a bit closer.
Oh one more thing, I wasn't in my gele build as well
Its just the case, no unhasted ranger has outdpsed me on prot, not even you, when I got a bit closer to my gear. With my gear atm I still can't outdps our best hasted rangers, but if they don't haste its my kill no question...
I won't deny our rogues aren't full DPS orientated, but on the servers you listed not all the mages are DPS orientated. Very few servers allow for mages to pursue DPS builds, most force them to carry 2-3 lures.
Every server is different, with different gear distribution rules, etc...
It isn't fair to compare people across servers like that. On other servers mages aren't allowed to puruse the build I currently have, so why should I compare myself to them?
On arawn we don't need pure DPS rogues and rangers, so they have a bit more health for doing bounties and surviving a bit easier at bosses.
There is more than one metric to measure how "good" your toon is. Something you never seemed to understand. You were locked at so many bosses, but still thought because you ended up with the kill that you pulled the most weight. What about those who were alive to bolas while you were taking a nap?
So vent, your ranger may have been "top" on arawn for a brief window, but don't try and make excuses for what happened. You didn't haste and I got kills every time you didn't haste after I got some gear upgrades. If you don't believe me come to one of our prots and don't haste, I'll see if we can get a druid to keep you alive out of lock and I'll let you know who gets kill with a ss.
Odds are you will make some excuse here, so don't even worry about replying, won't really be looking for one.
Unless you are all talk, just show up :-)
Agent K wrote:bob the mage wrote:I outdpsed you when you didnt haste at prot after I got my final gear pieces, could do it again right now. needed.
Ooo I'd love to ser that rn
I'll record and upload to youtube if he wants to show up. I don't really have anything to prove to him, but if he feels the need to try and "show me up" i'll record and publish.
TheGamer26 wrote:Well at Lir, you see a clan full of driuds, a solo boss with druid and a team full of druid with one tank.
This is what I was refering to earlier. Every server is different. Every server has different needs for different classes. For example, our graveyard shift players tend to have builds with more health. Due to the low number of available loggers they are used to having to solo without a tank or druid. So sure, they may not be getting proteus or gelebron kills, but they are still "good" players.
Who gets kill doesn't determine anything but who at that one specific kill had the best overall DPS. It doesn't say anything more. And no one class is strictly there to DPS. Rangers have bolas, mages have lures, rogues have some expose skills as well as the best ability to kill adds, warriors have bash and tanking as well as add handling jobs, and druids have to help heal.
Only selfish players who ignore the other responsbilities of bossing look at who got the final kill as validation for how good there toon is.
Nothing wrong with "DPS challanges" or "competitions" but you can't let them be the sole indicator of whose better. The same way a duel in the castle can't determine whose better, or who locks a boss...