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Griefing

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:02 pm
by Jeffryluvsgrant
If a rival clan was to attack your frozen xtals at gele this.would be griefing and earn a potential permanent ban?

Re: Griefing

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:19 pm
by Ivanhoe
I would say that is a very poor way to attempt griefing at Gelebron. One of the main objectives is to keep it the crystals down. As soon as they spawn they get pounded on and dispensed with immediately. So anyone attacking them is a blessing!!

Re: Griefing

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:31 pm
by Jeffryluvsgrant
What I mean is if the next xtal spawns before we kill current one, we freeze the xtal so it doesnt heal....the rival clan hits the frozen xtal to remove the freeze allowing it to heal gele

Re: Griefing

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:41 pm
by Eragon123
I'd say it fits right in the middle of the extremely hazy rules around griefing. Feel free to report the players for doing it, but I sincerely doubt anything will come of it...especially not a permanent ban. If it's a constant issue, where the same player is at every single Gelebron kill, constantly knocking the freeze off of crystals but not doing anything else (the character is only at that location to interfere), Support may do something. But if it only happened a couple times recently because someone was upset about something that someone else did to them, then Support likely won't do much.

Players get upset, it happens. If people got banned for every annoying thing they do, there would only be a handful of people let in the game. Try and work it out and see why they are doing it, or if it's a big deal, report them using the ingame tool (not the forums please) and let Support deal with it. If this is just a threat (based on your "if a rival clan was to attack" it kinda sounds like someone threatened to mess with your kills) and you just want an affirmative answer here so you can reply with a "go ahead, but I'll report you and you will get banned" then you won't get that.

Re: Griefing

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:02 pm
by Armo
From what I’ve seen in the past, players who grief bosses using exploits can get banned (running through walls, etc).

If they’re doing standard griefing techniques (dragging adds, using longshot, stopping freeze), I don’t think there is a set punishment.

Re: Griefing

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:53 pm
by Elfylolz
Armo wrote:From what I’ve seen in the past, players who grief bosses using exploits can get banned (running through walls, etc).

If they’re doing standard griefing techniques (dragging adds, using longshot, stopping freeze), I don’t think there is a set punishment.

^ never seen someone get banned for using game mechanics to grief

Re: Griefing

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:20 am
by Mdunc1982
Eragon123 wrote:I'd say it fits right in the middle of the extremely hazy rules around griefing. Feel free to report the players for doing it, but I sincerely doubt anything will come of it...especially not a permanent ban. If it's a constant issue, where the same player is at every single Gelebron kill, constantly knocking the freeze off of crystals but not doing anything else (the character is only at that location to interfere), Support may do something. But if it only happened a couple times recently because someone was upset about something that someone else did to them, then Support likely won't do much.

Players get upset, it happens. If people got banned for every annoying thing they do, there would only be a handful of people let in the game. Try and work it out and see why they are doing it, or if it's a big deal, report them using the ingame tool (not the forums please) and let Support deal with it. If this is just a threat (based on your "if a rival clan was to attack" it kinda sounds like someone threatened to mess with your kills) and you just want an affirmative answer here so you can reply with a "go ahead, but I'll report you and you will get banned" then you won't get that.


Eragon is right. Their would be no player base left if they banned everyone for dragging adds, killing mobs near boss, or allowing a boss to heal (necro) or (pyrus). Even I'm guilty of some of this, although most was purely accidental

Re: Griefing

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:56 am
by Eragon123
Elfylolz wrote:
Armo wrote:From what I’ve seen in the past, players who grief bosses using exploits can get banned (running through walls, etc).

If they’re doing standard griefing techniques (dragging adds, using longshot, stopping freeze), I don’t think there is a set punishment.

^ never seen someone get banned for using game mechanics to grief


If it’s done consistently by a certain over a longer period of time with the sole intention of making the game unenjoyable for a specific person(s), then VR will likely (should, in my opinion) step in. Regardless of whether the player in question is using completely fair game mechanics, if they are being misused to target someone, there is likely to be some sort of consequences.

That may or may not be the situation here though. If this is simply a clan war situation, where the other clan leadership is fully aware it’s happening and doesn’t want to stop it/encourages it....then I’m sorry. Your only choices are to push through it, or else fight fire with fire and grief them back. Both only end badly for the nicer people on the server....trust me. VR is not likely to (and shouldn’t, in my opinion) step into clan wars. That’s for the players to work out themselves.


All that being said, in my experience, drama is usually blown way out of proportion...a complaint about “he’s ksing me” is usually because the complainer did something to offend the other person, that other person bugs the first person for a short time, then all settles down.
As an aside to that, there are 2 sides to every fight. I know of some cases where player A reported player B for insulting and toxicity...but in the end, player A was banned instead of player B, because in Support’s investigation, they realized that player A had been way more toxic in communications than player B was.

If there is an issue, try looking for the cause, and get it fixed.

Re: Griefing

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:09 am
by Difinitus
If you feel that some one is griefing you and your clan, you can report it to our Support Team. If the team finds evidence of this, most likely the player will receive a warning depending on how many previous infractions that player has.

Re: Griefing

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:15 pm
by Icem/Death Spell
I still don't get how its possible to grief in this game its not like you can attack other people. (Yes I am a newbie)