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Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:19 pm
by Wolfenstien
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Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:56 pm
by Gabee
ZeroMagicGaming wrote:@OTM, where can I send some ss of our comp clan saying real life threatening things to me? They wanna ban us for no reason. I have some ss also.



Sorry out of topic, but you got banned stroker?

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:07 pm
by ZeroMagicGaming
Gabee wrote:
ZeroMagicGaming wrote:@OTM, where can I send some ss of our comp clan saying real life threatening things to me? They wanna ban us for no reason. I have some ss also.



Sorry out of topic, but you got banned stroker?

Nah surprisingly I’m not banned lol

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:56 am
by Ventius
ZeroMagicGaming wrote:
Gabee wrote:
ZeroMagicGaming wrote:@OTM, where can I send some ss of our comp clan saying real life threatening things to me? They wanna ban us for no reason. I have some ss also.



Sorry out of topic, but you got banned stroker?

Nah surprisingly I’m not banned lol
i should report you just for being a noob then 0.0

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:26 am
by Smellyunder
Anything that the game mechanics allow a player to do is not a violation of the tos except for scamming. Just like some people send ticket to otm complaining of harassment, tampering and grieving when they are killed in arena while trying to do the gladiator quest. When it happens, it is a case of go cry mama kind of situation. Even lix tampering is debatable. No one owns the mobs even if u r on lix so there is nothing to stop someone from killing mobs in an area where players are lixing, if people are Lixing while others are farming mobs there, then they cannot complain. Farming mobs is legit and there is no rule which says u can’t farm where players are lixing. Same for picking blossoms. In gardens. I was there first but later on a few came and competed with me to farm. I cannot complain they are stealing my blossoms or tampering with my levelling. Same for bosses you are trying to kill. If people come and so called tamper and u can’t kill the boss, then you are not good enough. Yes it makes people upset when that happens but the mechanics of the game allows it. Just like we have a clan who likes to pull adds to us at t and s when we are busy spamming to make us spam ss on the adds and hopefully missed t or s when it spawns, I never send ticket to otm to cry mama over it. If u are not good enough to kill a boss, your only recourse is go cry mama.

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:45 am
by Smellyunder
Wolfenstien wrote:
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I think u hit the nail on the head with the gif. It is precisiely a go cry mama situation,

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:49 am
by Smellyunder
By the way, can forum moderators pl note that what I posted are my personal views. Pl do not ban me for harassment.

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:52 am
by Elfylolz
bob the mage wrote:$5 says this thread gets locked now ._.

Gimme 5 bucks muhahah

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:57 am
by Smellyunder
Bitey wrote:Be very careful with your replies here... no bashing other people or clans.

To make Gabriella’s statement more general, what if a person gets reported and is innocent? What can they do then? Please discuss.

Edit: and I mean what can a person do before they are banned. If you are banned there is an appeals process to go through. You can read about it here
viewtopic.php?f=71&t=14400

If a person gets reported and is innocent, not much they can do just like someone I know who got banned for using the word troll when he meant snorri. Someone reported him for asking a clanny to troll other players when he actually meant go troll which is opening soon. Otm doesn’t observe a due process like a fair trial. They just banned u first and talk later via the appeal process. A proper due process presumes person is innocent until proven guilty and at the minimum, the person accused of committing a wrong must first be heard and asked to show cause before punishment or ban is imposed. As a result, if a rival clan wants to undermine a stronger clan which they can’t compete against, they just have to mass report someone for harassment or tampering to try to weaken the competition. Otm needs to review the banning process to at least include a show cause before deciding whether a ban is on order.

Re: CG Boss Tampering

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:01 am
by Dark Kitty
Smellyunder wrote:
Bitey wrote:Be very careful with your replies here... no bashing other people or clans.

To make Gabriella’s statement more general, what if a person gets reported and is innocent? What can they do then? Please discuss.

Edit: and I mean what can a person do before they are banned. If you are banned there is an appeals process to go through. You can read about it here
viewtopic.php?f=71&t=14400

If a person gets reported and is innocent, not much they can do just like someone I know who got banned for using the word troll when he meant snorri. Someone reported him for asking a clanny to troll other players when he actually meant go troll which is opening soon. Otm doesn’t observe a due process like a fair trial. They just banned u first and talk later via the appeal process. A proper due process presumes person is innocent until proven guilty and at the minimum, the person accused of committing a wrong must first be heard and asked to show cause before punishment or ban is imposed. As a result, if a rival clan wants to undermine a stronger clan which they can’t compete against, they just have to mass report someone for harassment or tampering to try to weaken the competition. Otm needs to review the banning process to at least include a show cause before deciding whether a ban is on order.

What I’m understanding is the appeals process isn’t a trial process as the player is proven guilty already. More like a 2nd chance. I’m not sure what the deal was with your friend though.