Criminal wrote:Even dkp has flaws. As opposed to the ppl here who can shoot down others' systems while praising their own (which is completely unnecessary). For example the leaders decide how many points are given for each action which can work in favor for certain things. It doesnt matter if its agreed on by the clan because same could be said for other systems. If its decided by certain ppl, if u created a poll on which dkp u will run, on what points will be given how, if it was not something given to u by someone objective and it was decided by subjective ppl, its biased. In the same logic others have used here.
Surely DKP is less flawed compared to leaders deciding on drops as you're more in control of how well you get geared.
The moment u decide on how points are given u basically control all of the DKP system as a whole. Nonetheless, Elem does voting combined with raid attendance, partly edl and snorri attendances, gear lists, gear tracked, guardians and gens combined, set rules, set time windows for everything, no effect between questline items and boss drops (neither affect each other), no "bonus" based on rank (If Im best geared warrior dps wise is because Im most active warrior too, as well as almost all the tanks in clan are guardian-chief). What else the majority I talk to will always support the system of their own clan (whether it is dkp, rolling or voting) and feel it is almost entirely fair (and yes our members think so too, in fact many players on Bele moved from dkp to voting feeling that the voting was handled far more fairly), and there are ppl in all 3 systems who will dislike the systems even being in those clan, simply because they disagree, whether its voting, dkp or rolling. In the end, the system ur clan runs is meant to satisfy the members, not the outsiders such as players on forums, am I correct? Then if the clan feels voting best suits them, considering Elementals exists longer than 90% of the clans (or more) in the game, would u not at the very least admit that the system had it's success? And to add that we have always been dominant, but our weakest time was New Engine (which caused massive Belenus population to quit, to the point competition barely had any players and we couldnt get 20 online, mostly due ppl quitting over lag and crashes for months or even years with no solution) and that was right after our necro kills, being 5th clan to kill Necro. What else Elementals constantly worked with Lugh on strategies too and helped one another (Lugh helped us with Mordy and in return we helped with Necro and both clans killed the bosses in their respective worlds).
So whether u agree or disagree with the system, are u able at the very least admit that for the specific clan that runs it that it has succeeded? Otherwise, u would just be denying something as simple as that.
Like I said, please ur members, not the players on forums who believe they're always right with their ways. I think thats what we're leaders for.