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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

#21
Auction House will be per server trading on launch.

There are currently no plans to make it cross-server, largely due to server economies.

cross server is only way to go...why kill a great idea and send it down into deadend street. when this game is trying to aspire to a worldwide gaming audiences.
otm please don't be fooled by players claiming it affects "server economies"...those players are choking there own servers into a depression anyways.

otm you now got the perfect opportunity now to actually start a transitional phase...to venture into cross server trialing and monetize it.
for me on a personal level factor is you would get a lot more players staying longer and playing different servers location with new toons ...just because it's 100percent safe to trade over my gear n fash.

that's what a lot of players would use it for, not to sell anything.....that's nothing to do with economies.

simply put...it would be a international mailbox. (with a plat type premium attached).
Read the rest of the thread please.... But I will repost the arguments as to why the idea of a cross-server system would fail....
Didn't read other comments but I believe it should be between a few servers like a server merge would. I'd rather that over a server merge since then players could still have the trading aspect of more players but with less people clogging bosses. +1
Server merge would be aweful as would combining economies. Talk about lag and economy problems. A change in supply and demand like that would cripple many of the servers economies. Some people would prosper by quickly selling stuff to take advantage of high demand low supply but in the end everything would crumble.... Ideas like this are not new at all, the reason that this hasn't ever happened and won't is because OTM recognizes what a disaster it would be.
Cross server trading is dumb. It introduces a lot more issues than perceived benefits. Each world has a different rate of advancement, and economics. It may work in other games but not CH. Good decision by OTM not to listen to Runescapers.
I bet 90% of the raid gear/dl and edl quest items going through the auction house would come from Epona. Good for the rest of us but terrible for Epona. -1
Yep I can see a big problem with raid gear being sold across servers if this were to be a platform wide auction house.
Will each server have their own auction house, or will it be a platform-wide auction house? What are your thoughts of one AH shared across all servers per platform (iOS or Android)?
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Some quick thoughts of my own regarding a single, shared AH:
  • * This would go a long way toward balancing the economies across worlds; would this be good or bad? (pros and cons here I am sure.)

Bad overall. Each world has a different economy and it would crash many of them to suddenly mix after years of isolation.
  • * The prices of common necessities like lixes would be normalized across all servers
    * This would help balance out times when some servers currently experience scarcity of needed items, resulting in crazy prices.

* This would allow all worlds the opportunity of gaining rare items that may currently be non-existant or scarce on some servers.
* This could speed up the buying and selling process for items that would move more slowly in a single server, as the market would be much larger.
Except when everyone does this on all worlds it removes any benefit.
* people that want to transfer items between worlds could now do it safely
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Except you can't. If you put a low price someone could snipe it before you can buy it, for a high price you might just have well bought it in trade. You can more or less safely do it now by selling items for gold and xfering it in many small amounts. You can only be scammed a small sum then.

Will probably have more thoughts to add later...
Nothing good will come from a merge of the servers economies.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

#22
thread was read bud...what's your point?

anyways add this guys ideas to the concept and the positive far outweigh the negatives.. then everyone has a option what they think is right and wrong for there so called "server economies".

http://celtic-heroes.com/forum/viewtopi ... =4&t=89329
number 3.everyone - being platform wide.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

#23
In a perfect, cooperative world, this would be great. Unfortunately we are too selfish and greedy, and this cross server, eco-merge, would just cause major issues. Just by reading the posts i've come to understand the major deviation on the economies of the various servers. Trust me, i would like them balanced, but an eco-merge, is too soon. OTM may have ways to balance this, but the solution is not soon, i bet. Though i do like the Platinum idea.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

#24
Auction House will be per server trading on launch.

There are currently no plans to make it cross-server, largely due to server economies.
Wait...so the auction house will remain dumb and stupid forever :o ?
I'm confused, are you for or against across server trading?

http://celtic-heroes.com/forum/viewtopi ... 04#p703881
No u just had a typo that said somethin like "there are not current plans to make it server-wise" instead of "wide"._.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

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Someone help me out here. How exactly would this cripple economies? It would 'hurt' the .01% of the players that have rare mounts and fashion maybe because a couple more pieces of rare fashion or mounts would make it around to other worlds. Really awesome raid drops aren't exactly a common occurrence so it's not like there's just going to be a flood of void moon helms or void gele bows flooding servers. Perhaps there might be less plat items on servers that pay less for plat items. But for the vast majority of players which are casual players I don't see this impacting them that much.

There's really nothing in the game I want anymore so the whole auction house has lost its excitement to me. But I see this word economy in this game and it typically only impacts those players that have the Rares and not the majority of the players. But I'd love to see a concrete and specific example of how this would negatively impact 95% of the servers and not just 1 or 2.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

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Someone help me out here. How exactly would this cripple economies? It would 'hurt' the .01% of the players that have rare mounts and fashion maybe because a couple more pieces of rare fashion or mounts would make it around to other worlds. Really awesome raid drops aren't exactly a common occurrence so it's not like there's just going to be a flood of void moon helms or void gele bows flooding servers. Perhaps there might be less plat items on servers that pay less for plat items. But for the vast majority of players which are casual players I don't see this impacting them that much.

There's really nothing in the game I want anymore so the whole auction house has lost its excitement to me. But I see this word economy in this game and it typically only impacts those players that have the Rares and not the majority of the players. But I'd love to see a concrete and specific example of how this would negatively impact 95% of the servers and not just 1 or 2.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

#27
There are several worlds with clans that don't regulate raid drops and allow people to sell them. It would conflict with the servers that do regulate those things as itd help the rival clans greatly, having someone sell gear that drops from bosses.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

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Someone help me out here. How exactly would this cripple economies? It would 'hurt' the .01% of the players that have rare mounts and fashion maybe because a couple more pieces of rare fashion or mounts would make it around to other worlds. Really awesome raid drops aren't exactly a common occurrence so it's not like there's just going to be a flood of void moon helms or void gele bows flooding servers. Perhaps there might be less plat items on servers that pay less for plat items. But for the vast majority of players which are casual players I don't see this impacting them that much.

There's really nothing in the game I want anymore so the whole auction house has lost its excitement to me. But I see this word economy in this game and it typically only impacts those players that have the Rares and not the majority of the players. But I'd love to see a concrete and specific example of how this would negatively impact 95% of the servers and not just 1 or 2.
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Re: Auction House: Per Server, or Platform-wide?

#29
Hahaha I used to be in Epona and everyone just sold anything to anyone and everyone was happy. What a shock I got when I switched to Lir where everyone hides drags in their clan banks
Still? Pretty much anyone that plays now a days can solo falg. What's the point of hoarding drags.
That's a difference between iOS and Android. Android still rakes in tons of newbs climbing the ranks. On Donn, Falg is camped almost constantly by a clan or two and Drags are sold for 15k-30k each, huge sums of gold for the players who need those drops.

I'm for cross-server, cross-platform AH trading. iOS would rake in the gold bc of the years of accumulated useless stuff they have that Android has never even seen and would become immediate status symbols. But that's just my guess.

OTM, if you want to test run the system, why not make a cross-server/platform AH fash only? That way, the only thing that may take a hit is people's pocketbooks. Or not. See what happens.
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