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How Android servers will work

#1
At first, Android servers and IOS servers will be separate. This is so OTM can fix any Android issues that passed through the beta without interfering with IOS.
Once BOTH IOS has the new engine running smoothly AND Android is fully released without any issues, they will merge the servers.
"Merging the servers" doesn't mean that they would put everybody who is playing on an Android server onto an IOS world. What it does mean is this:
1. You will be able to use an IOS device to log into an Android server.
2. You will be able to use an Android device to log into an IOS server.
3. You will NOT be able to transfer things from IOS to Android, or the other way around.
4. Think of Android as new worlds being added. This is exactly what it is and nothing more.

Issues you may have:
1. "no pls dnt do ths android iz so much hax pls" <--- No understanding of how games work. Android will not have any hacks or glitches that IOS doesn't have. Modifying a game on Android is NOT easier than it is on IOS. Modifying a game on IOS is NOT easier than it is on Android. The only "glitches" (they are hardly glitches) in either server that you COULD do is change the images and names of things in game. This is EXTREMELY easy to do, both on Android and IOS, and has NO impact on how the game works; it is something only visible to you, and only you can see it.
2. "will i looz my itemz on ios" No you will not. Once again, the merging is exactly as if new worlds are being added that you can play on. No user data will be erased EVER.
3. "can i play on android with ifone" Yes you can. You will be able to use an IOS device to play on an Android world, and an Android device to play on an IOS world.
4. "i can give my items to android world?" No you cannot. You are not currently, and will never be able to transfer items or characters between worlds. This is because in order for OTM to transfer the files of one character to another world, they would have to bring down the servers. Imagine the amount of down time this game would have because of people transferring worlds. It is something that simply isn't possible.

How will Android be released?
When the Android game is released to the google play store, it will only have the following zones: Lirs Reach, Farcarg Castle, the Arena, Crookback Hollows, Dustwither Catacombs, and the Tavern. The other zones will be released as updates to the game, the same as they were for IOS.

What about IOS?
Once the Android version is fully released with all of the zones, OTM will open up a beta to test the IOS engine. Once both the IOS and Android are fully released, they will begin working on updates for the game.

Whats next?
The things that OTM has said they will be working on this year are as follows: Release android. Update IOS engine. A new zone (Celebrons Tower). Crafting. Mounts.

Please sticky this so that every other post I see on the forums isn't asking about these things.
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#3
One of the main things i have to ask you is... Do you work for OTM? Because the way you worded everything is like you know exactly the plans that OTM has for its merging of iOS and android servers... You state that you know OTM is gonna do things this exact certain way... If so then great, we can expect this... But... This seems like someone just guessing what might be to come but ensuring that you know what you're talking about exactly.

I personally haven't read anything directly from OTM or admin stating any of this... I don't think any of us know how exactly iOS and android will collide. Could be different servers with the same name or could be a crazy merger of them both. I'd personally like you to post a link to OTM/admin's comments leading you to these answers of the iOS android merging...
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#4
Jake408 wrote:At first, Android servers and IOS servers will be separate. This is so OTM can fix any Android issues that passed through the beta without interfering with IOS.
Once BOTH IOS has the new engine running smoothly AND Android is fully released without any issues, they will merge the servers.
"Merging the servers" doesn't mean that they would put everybody who is playing on an Android server onto an IOS world. What it does mean is this:
1. You will be able to use an IOS device to log into an Android server.
2. You will be able to use an Android device to log into an IOS server.
3. You will NOT be able to transfer things from IOS to Android, or the other way around.
4. Think of Android as new worlds being added. This is exactly what it is and nothing more.

Issues you may have:
1. "no pls dnt do ths android iz so much hax pls" <--- No understanding of how games work. Android will not have any hacks or glitches that IOS doesn't have. Modifying a game on Android is NOT easier than it is on IOS. Modifying a game on IOS is NOT easier than it is on Android. The only "glitches" (they are hardly glitches) in either server that you COULD do is change the images and names of things in game. This is EXTREMELY easy to do, both on Android and IOS, and has NO impact on how the game works; it is something only visible to you, and only you can see it.
2. "will i looz my itemz on ios" No you will not. Once again, the merging is exactly as if new worlds are being added that you can play on. No user data will be erased EVER.
3. "can i play on android with ifone" Yes you can. You will be able to use an IOS device to play on an Android world, and an Android device to play on an IOS world.
4. "i can give my items to android world?" No you cannot. You are not currently, and will never be able to transfer items or characters between worlds. This is because in order for OTM to transfer the files of one character to another world, they would have to bring down the servers. Imagine the amount of down time this game would have because of people transferring worlds. It is something that simply isn't possible.

How will Android be released?
When the Android game is released to the google play store, it will only have the following zones: Lirs Reach, Farcarg Castle, the Arena, Crookback Hollows, Dustwither Catacombs, and the Tavern. The other zones will be released as updates to the game, the same as they were for IOS.

What about IOS?
Once the Android version is fully released with all of the zones, OTM will open up a beta to test the IOS engine. Once both the IOS and Android are fully released, they will begin working on updates for the game.

Whats next?
The things that OTM has said they will be working on this year are as follows: Release android. Update IOS engine. A new zone (Celebrons Tower). Crafting. Mounts.

Please sticky this so that every other post I see on the forums isn't asking about these things.


This post is a good summary of our plans for 2014, thanks for writing it up. We plan to have all of this (and more) completed in 2014.

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#5
Jake408 wrote:4. "i can give my items to android world?" No you cannot. You are not currently, and will never be able to transfer items or characters between worlds. This is because in order for OTM to transfer the files of one character to another world, they would have to bring down the servers. Imagine the amount of down time this game would have because of people transferring worlds. It is something that simply isn't possible.

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OTM may have decided no world transfers but point 4) doesn't make sense to me.

When you join the game a character is created without a server restart.

Characters are just records in the CH databases. Game visual assets (ie client side) and client code plus server side code upgrades would require a restart (hot deploy anybody??) but not changes to data.


Assuming each world has its own database for performance reasons then Inter world transfers could very simply be accomplished by a database procedure that runs each day or at other regular intervals.

Everyone who flagged themselves as moving to another world (via a new screen) could have all their character records transferred to another world's database and the old character marked as deleted or inactivated or whatever.

I imagine some extra development would be needed to log you off the game if you were playing when the transfer time happens. Alternatively your character is transferred at the first transfer time after logging off.

See.....simples.
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Re: How Android servers will work

#6
Maxxee wrote:One of the main things i have to ask you is... Do you work for OTM? Because the way you worded everything is like you know exactly the plans that OTM has for its merging of iOS and android servers... You state that you know OTM is gonna do things this exact certain way... If so then great, we can expect this... But... This seems like someone just guessing what might be to come but ensuring that you know what you're talking about exactly.


The admins, through various posts, have more or less said all of this. OP is aggregating it all so people stop asking the same questions over and over. Good job OP.
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#7
i have a friend who has an android who would like to play with me so this is an amazing thing to find out! yay! by the way when you say the update will have mounts are talking about animals? we already have flying sticks that we call mounts. i would love it if we had animals we could mount.
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Re: How Android servers will work

#9
So as a summary i wont ever be able to 2 box my toons with my android divice? There needs to be a way as i dont want to have restart my toons again. Unless i read something wrong.
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#10
Fantastic job.

I would have 1 other question/suggestion for otm.

How long would you estimate between creation of the new world and been able to create a toon with ios there?
Or if it would be months would it be possible to only create half the new worlds untill ios and android devices can log together.
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