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If you want server merges...

#1
There are so many requests for server merges lately, mostly from Nuada it appears but maybe other servers as well. I was wondering this... If you want your server merged, what server is it you want it moved to? I'm also curious how you'd feel if your server was randomly moved to a server of VR's choosing? Would it matter to you if you were moved to another server with a bigger, stronger dom clan than your own? Would you try to get the dom clan to let your previously dom clan merge into theirs? Would you accept your place as second and try to work toward overtaking them? What about if you were in the 2nd most dominant clan on your server and VR decided to move another server into yours and now your clan is 3rd or even 4th strongest? Would you want servers changed back if you ended up in a situation where you were forced to join the servers dom clan and dissolve your own in order for you to participate in raids?

I'm not in a dom clan, but even I wouldn't want another server's clans and players dumped onto my server. The dynamics and politics of each server is unique, and would be significantly altered if that happened. I might be wrong, but it has seemed to me that people who want server merges make the assumption that their dom clan would be the dom one on the merged server as well. That's only true for half the clans though, and I don't see how people would be anything but furious if VR decided servers to be merged and, therefore, which clans remained dominant and which died. I may be way off base though. What do you think?

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#2
Since I play on nuada where necro hasn’t been killed in over a month I wouldn’t mind a server merge even if my clan wasn’t Dom which it most likely wouldn’t be if we can’t kill necro. And I would actually probably prefer it if my clan wasn’t the Dom one on the server as it would be fun trying to catch up and over take them. I’m also fairly sure we would let anyone in to our clan too so that shouldn’t be a problem. But that’s just my opinion

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#3
I'm not against server merges and I would not be worried about which server we gonna match with at all. But merging the servers alone won't solve problems of dead servers in the long run. VR needs to add "new" content regularly and do all the fixes, balancements and improvements.

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#5
They’re not going to do server merges. Just because a small portion of Nuada players (goes for any server really that calls for a merge) call for it doesn’t mean everyone in Nuada wants to be moved from their server and forced into another. Not only that but the other server has to go along with it was well. It’s quite obvious Nuada wants to merge with Sulis so Apex can be with their Toxic buddies. What about retri? What would they prefer? Or all the other players that aren’t in Toxic? Making a bunch of spam posts calling for a server merge won’t make your voice any bigger. Everyone gets a say in it, because they’re playing the same game as you are and want to enjoy it just as much as you do. Some players on Nuada may actually enjoy not having Apex being as prevalent anymore... you never know.

Another thing to keep in mind is that overpopulation can also be a serious problem. Epona is starting to feel it right now. You merge a server like Nuada with a more active server (no server is in the same position Nuada is in), all those Nuada inactives come back when they hear a merge has happened, they all go to Sulis, and now Sulis starts experiencing overpopulation as their player counts have nearly doubled.
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#6
My main argument against server merges is and always has been that the game doesn’t revolve around endgame players. Any changes VR makes have to be made while considering the entire playerbase.

Sure, every single active person over 200 on server A might want to get merged with another server, but what if that number is only 30% of the active player count for that server. A “dead server” in most playerspeak usually just means low endgame numbers, rather than necessarily low player counts in general.

Regardless, even if there is an unusually low total player count for a server, that still doesn’t mean that a server merge is good for either server involved. Economies are part of the issue, but also just player counts in general. Again, VR has to consider all players of any level, not just endgame. Let’s say there’s only twenty 200+ characters that log in every day on average, and 55 characters under 200. Combine that with another server with roughly the same numbers, and suddenly you have a great endgame player count. However, there’s now over 100 regularly logging players under 200...which means a lot more competition for leveling spots, quest mobs, gear (in AH and trades) and so on.

I think the main point I’m trying to make is that any server merge will quite literally be forcing players together, into a completely new dynamic, overnight. As such, I don’t think 10 people wanting it on the forums is a good enough representation of the entire server to justify (in my opinion) a merge.

That’s not even considering any less-active players who log back in after taking a few weeks off to find out that everything is completely different. Any server merge would have a lot of negative backlash. As such, I really can’t think of any situation where a server merge would ever be a good idea for all players involved, or even most. The only exception being if multiple servers were to only have <50 total characters logging in daily on average.

Also...keep in mind that when VR looks at server metrics, they see characters logging in - they probably have no clue if any are alts. So, lets say player A has 4 endgame characters that they log in regularly for bounties and bossing. VR, looking at their metrics, probably doesn’t have any way to tell if that is 4 different players logging in daily, or 1. As such, an endgame consisting of 10-15 players could look like a good 20-40 players. If you players in “dead servers” are doing this, that could very well be a good part of why VR might not see much of a problem with server activity levels.
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#8
As someone who has played on many servers and now plays on Nuada I’m against server mergers. Yes people have quit. It happens. End game is after all end game. What more did you want? No really. More drops? More gear? When I log on now it’s to help others, if you can find nothing to do in the game or in your server then perhaps it is time for you to try a new venue. The name says it all...................end game. You were expecting more?
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#9
It’s quite obvious Nuada wants to merge with Sulis so Apex can be with their Toxic buddies.
No we don’t. I don’t want to go to Sulis.
Is it we or you? Because there are other threads made by Apex members that would say otherwise lol
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#10
It’s quite obvious Nuada wants to merge with Sulis so Apex can be with their Toxic buddies.
No we don’t. I don’t want to go to Sulis.
Is it we or you? Because there are other threads made by Apex members that would say otherwise lol
Literally 4-5 of us want to go to sulis, rest have no interaction with anyone in sulis.
People are just annoyed because nothing die, none log and rather than server merge i want them to make a plat ticket to xerf servers. Make it 20k plat idc, but atleast an option to leave and play wherever you want and not be stuck in a place with years of work wasted.

Edit- a high rate plat ticket will stop scammers from exploiting the system too.
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