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Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:58 am
by Chaotic
Most people wouldn't remember but before lock you would stay at the boss the entire kill DPSing and see who got the kill/drops at the end. That was way more exciting and tense than lock battles.

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:21 am
by Zyz
Elfylolz wrote:
Shivahh wrote:How is holding a boss griefing though, you lost and if they wipe/reset then you have another opportunity, what you're stating is not griefing until it's locked but if you're messing with the boss that's already been taken then you're definitely in the wrong.

^^^I 100% agree with this, it's different if the clan can't kill the boss and only steals lock to screw with you but when you're outlocking the comp to hold until your clan can finish gathering it isn't griefing at all... I'd rather outlock the other clan and wait 45 mins than let them have and wait days


Either you can or can't kill the boss at that time. If you cannot kill it at that time, then you are simply holding the boss to prevent the other group from killing it. Regardless if you can muster enough toons 45 minutes or 14 days later, it's the same.

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:29 am
by Zyz
Seasalty123 wrote:This is one of those touchy subjects. Griefing I think is to hinder the raid entirely. However buying your clan time to log by locking is just executing a strategy to get the finished kill. It wont be popular to the losing team, but if its to troll and not finish the raid thats another story.


If one group cannot kill the boss until they can gather enough but can lock it to prevent another group from killing it that has the numbers to kill it, then there isn't really any difference than not being able to kill it but locking it so the other group can't kill it. This waiting for enough to come on can go on ad nauseum...how long is acceptable to wait? 5 minutes? 2 hours? 4 weeks?

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:43 am
by Chaotic
Zyz wrote:
Elfylolz wrote:
Shivahh wrote:How is holding a boss griefing though, you lost and if they wipe/reset then you have another opportunity, what you're stating is not griefing until it's locked but if you're messing with the boss that's already been taken then you're definitely in the wrong.

^^^I 100% agree with this, it's different if the clan can't kill the boss and only steals lock to screw with you but when you're outlocking the comp to hold until your clan can finish gathering it isn't griefing at all... I'd rather outlock the other clan and wait 45 mins than let them have and wait days


Either you can or can't kill the boss at that time. If you cannot kill it at that time, then you are simply holding the boss to prevent the other group from killing it. Regardless if you can muster enough toons 45 minutes or 14 days later, it's the same.

+1

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:49 am
by Curry30423
How is this griefing._. I griefed my clans bt by pulling blazeroot out of spot #gitgud

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:37 pm
by Romeo
Chaotic wrote:Most people wouldn't remember but before lock you would stay at the boss the entire kill DPSing and see who got the kill/drops at the end. That was way more exciting and tense than lock battles.

I agree 1000% this was a lot more fun. Hope they revert back to this

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:39 pm
by Robert
Chaotic wrote:Most people wouldn't remember but before lock you would stay at the boss the entire kill DPSing and see who got the kill/drops at the end. That was way more exciting and tense than lock battles.

Yeah, except the loot when to the group with the INDIVIDUAL with the most damage, meaning you could get the loot solo against a full group.

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:18 pm
by Chaotic
Robert wrote:
Chaotic wrote:Most people wouldn't remember but before lock you would stay at the boss the entire kill DPSing and see who got the kill/drops at the end. That was way more exciting and tense than lock battles.

Yeah, except the loot when to the group with the INDIVIDUAL with the most damage, meaning you could get the loot solo against a full group.

With how group mechanics work now (highest damage group gets kill) I don't think that is how looting would work anymore, it should be based on group dps.

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:43 am
by FinallyAdi
Zyz wrote:
Seasalty123 wrote:This is one of those touchy subjects. Griefing I think is to hinder the raid entirely. However buying your clan time to log by locking is just executing a strategy to get the finished kill. It wont be popular to the losing team, but if its to troll and not finish the raid thats another story.


If one group cannot kill the boss until they can gather enough but can lock it to prevent another group from killing it that has the numbers to kill it, then there isn't really any difference than not being able to kill it but locking it so the other group can't kill it. This waiting for enough to come on can go on ad nauseum...how long is acceptable to wait? 5 minutes? 2 hours? 4 weeks?


Anything under the respawn time is acceptable.

Re: Response to griefing

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:38 pm
by Dunkeelmeh
To many variables to make something out of this.

Need a ch police ,court and lawyers. To make it fair game lol.