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Re: Clan Owned Gear

#71
Aspire wrote:Using a team to further personal advancement is silly to me. I say it's better to have Dom Clans than chaos and no loyalty to those around you. Also helps keep the greedy entitled people in check. But just my opinion. I believe in loyalty, honor, & integrity. Sure wish the world did too. Getting worse with each generation.


You want to compare the game to the real world? Well then I'm sorry to tell you but Dom clans who believe all the gear belongs to the generals are the embodiment of communism.

So no one claims I'm pulling things out of the air, here is a definition of communism: "capitalized
a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production" (source: Merriam-Webster).

You are advocating for gear obtained by the clan to remain the property of the clan to be controlled by the authoritarian party, in this case the generals. And yes it is authoritarian, i guarantee you guys don't hold an election every x period of time on position of power such as who demotes/promotes, runs banks, etc

Since you seem to have such a high moral standard, you're either your worse enemy or a communist...

You chose to extrapolate from the game to the real world first

Re: Clan Owned Gear

#72
Shivahh wrote:
tayilern wrote:
Aspire wrote:Using a team to further personal advancement is silly to me. I say it's better to have Dom Clans than chaos and no loyalty to those around you. Also helps keep the greedy entitled people in check. But just my opinion. I believe in loyalty, honor, & integrity. Sure wish the world did too. Getting worse with each generation.


It's funny, you point out greedy players, but most dom clans hoard hundreds of drops in their bank lmao.

Upgrading gear eventually pushes gear down and hits the bank, clans do raids for the minority of good drops and end up with filled up banks but i dont see how that classifies as hoarding, sell the rest of the server gear? Some servers are about maintaining domination, its not an obligation for one clan to kill the bosses then gear the rest of the server.


Hoarding is just amassing money and objects of value to hide or store away. So yes it is hoarding.

Is the hoarding done for a purpose? In this case your suggesting it's to stifle competition. But it is still hoarding.

Re: Clan Owned Gear

#73
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:
tayilern wrote:
It's funny, you point out greedy players, but most dom clans hoard hundreds of drops in their bank lmao.

Upgrading gear eventually pushes gear down and hits the bank, clans do raids for the minority of good drops and end up with filled up banks but i dont see how that classifies as hoarding, sell the rest of the server gear? Some servers are about maintaining domination, its not an obligation for one clan to kill the bosses then gear the rest of the server.


Hoarding is just amassing money and objects of value to hide or store away. So yes it is hoarding.

Is the hoarding done for a purpose? In this case your suggesting it's to stifle competition. But it is still hoarding.


Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.
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Re: Clan Owned Gear

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Shivahh wrote:
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:Upgrading gear eventually pushes gear down and hits the bank, clans do raids for the minority of good drops and end up with filled up banks but i dont see how that classifies as hoarding, sell the rest of the server gear? Some servers are about maintaining domination, its not an obligation for one clan to kill the bosses then gear the rest of the server.


Hoarding is just amassing money and objects of value to hide or store away. So yes it is hoarding.

Is the hoarding done for a purpose? In this case your suggesting it's to stifle competition. But it is still hoarding.


Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.


Nope. My definition is definitely correct. Heres where I got it from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hoard

You just feel ashamed to realise what you are doing and trying to redefine the word so u don't look/feel like an a$$

Re: Clan Owned Gear

#75
Shivahh wrote:
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:Upgrading gear eventually pushes gear down and hits the bank, clans do raids for the minority of good drops and end up with filled up banks but i dont see how that classifies as hoarding, sell the rest of the server gear? Some servers are about maintaining domination, its not an obligation for one clan to kill the bosses then gear the rest of the server.


Hoarding is just amassing money and objects of value to hide or store away. So yes it is hoarding.

Is the hoarding done for a purpose? In this case your suggesting it's to stifle competition. But it is still hoarding.


Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.


Man that's rich. Justifying hoarding by claiming it represents your achievement. Lol youre one funny guy

Re: Clan Owned Gear

#76
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:
Soccer wrote:
Hoarding is just amassing money and objects of value to hide or store away. So yes it is hoarding.

Is the hoarding done for a purpose? In this case your suggesting it's to stifle competition. But it is still hoarding.


Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.


Nope. My definition is definitely correct. Heres where I got it from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hoard

You just feel ashamed to realise what you are doing and trying to redefine the word so u don't look/feel like an a$$

So you’re going online to find the definition of a word and using that in correlation to an action used ingame, cool
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Re: Clan Owned Gear

#77
Shivahh wrote:
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:
Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.


Nope. My definition is definitely correct. Heres where I got it from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hoard

You just feel ashamed to realise what you are doing and trying to redefine the word so u don't look/feel like an a$$

So you’re going online to find the definition of a word and using that in correlation to an action used ingame, cool


Hmm what's worse? Questioning the definition of a word without checking to see if someone used it right or taking the time to find the definition to actually provide constructive criticism...
Such a tough question to answer

Edit: oh and yeah it's 2000, where I gotta turn on the modem and wait for that jingle to play to connect to a 52.5Kbps network and wait 5 minutes for Google to load...if only finding a definition took 10 seconds...

Re: Clan Owned Gear

#78
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:
Soccer wrote:
Hoarding is just amassing money and objects of value to hide or store away. So yes it is hoarding.

Is the hoarding done for a purpose? In this case your suggesting it's to stifle competition. But it is still hoarding.


Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.


Man that's rich. Justifying hoarding by claiming it represents your achievement. Lol youre one funny guy



It doesn't need justified.

We earned it and if we want to hoard it away from the rest of the server then we will.
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Re: Clan Owned Gear

#79
LadyNymeria wrote:
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:
Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.


Man that's rich. Justifying hoarding by claiming it represents your achievement. Lol youre one funny guy



It doesn't need justified.

We earned it and if we want to hoard it away from the rest of the server then we will.


How about you read and fully understand comments before you post. I never said it needs justifying, all I said was that "a sense of accomplishment" is not a justification...smh some people

Re: Clan Owned Gear

#80
Shivahh wrote:
Soccer wrote:
Shivahh wrote:Upgrading gear eventually pushes gear down and hits the bank, clans do raids for the minority of good drops and end up with filled up banks but i dont see how that classifies as hoarding, sell the rest of the server gear? Some servers are about maintaining domination, its not an obligation for one clan to kill the bosses then gear the rest of the server.


Hoarding is just amassing money and objects of value to hide or store away. So yes it is hoarding.

Is the hoarding done for a purpose? In this case your suggesting it's to stifle competition. But it is still hoarding.


Killing a boss and storing it does not have any deleterious effects whatsoever, saving it for future use, future clannies, alts or the drop being absolutely useless is whats happening.
Killing a boss alone is another story but group efforts are different especially in a clan, and i see these all these “trash drops” as a trophy of achievements throughout the years.
You’re hoarding is defining something much darker than what its intended to actually be.

What’s really going on is you’re taking all the drops and holding them within the clan banks, preventing outsiders from ever touching the gear. Of course the outsiders will call you greedy and maybe even hoarders... they’ll ask “why can’t I have some of those drops? Why are they entitled to them while I’m not? Why can’t I progress the game without being in a clan I disagree with?”... especially if a lot of the drops do rot away in banks, but could find use on an outsider. The player has equal rights to the drops, and can help just as much on the boss as a clan member.

You can argue against it all you want, but that’s literally what’s happening with dom clans. It’s mostly why dom clans are frowned upon by outsiders. Of course those on the inside will see nothing wrong and defend it because they’re apart of the charade lol
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