Zkills wrote: xXzeemXx wrote:
Zkills wrote:What’s really going on is you’re taking all the drops and holding them within the clan banks, preventing outsiders from ever touching the gear. Of course the outsiders will call you greedy and maybe even hoarders... they’ll ask “why can’t I have some of those drops? Why are they entitled to them while I’m not? Why can’t I progress the game without being in a clan I disagree with?”... especially if a lot of the drops do rot away in banks, but could find use on an outsider. The player has equal rights to the drops, and can help just as much on the boss as a clan member.
You can argue against it all you want, but that’s literally what’s happening with dom clans. It’s mostly why dom clans are frowned upon by outsiders. Of course those on the inside will see nothing wrong and defend it because they’re apart of the charade lol
To these people i say feel free to compete against the dom clan if u disagree with them. No one is entitled to anything nor anyone is preventing anyone from progressing.
They can compete for the drops against the dom clan if they disagree with it then. The game even gives them advantages with mechanics like lock penalty (for bosses like aggy mord necro hrung at least) so there is no excuse for them not to work hard and try to overtake the dom clan, but complaining and blaming the dom clan for doing what clans wont do these people that wanna advance any good. As others pointed out, the drops that a clan store can be kept for future members, alts, or many other reasons.
Idk if you’ve ever been apart of a comp clan, but it’s extremely difficult and frustrating because 80% of the time you will lose and you will always be out powered by dom clans unless if it’s their down hours. It’s why competition is a dying trend and Epona is getting more and more popular. Dom clans are increasingly getting better and better with bosses like BT and Gele while comp clans are stuck with the junk... a few occasionally lucky pulls from a necro, Mordy or prot and maybe a gele kill or two.
Of course there are instances where the comp clan pulls ahead like on Mabon, Lugh or Morrigan, but then you become the very thing you were fighting against and then others become outsiders. So what did you really accomplish for the server besides making more players quit the game or leave the server?
>points out how hard it is to overpower dom clans
>mentions cpl example shortly after, one of which is considered recent and was in a server where the dom clan has access to BT loot
Boi i have reached endgame in an underdog clan. I know competition very well and i can see and tell when a clan is determined to overtake another clan and when they are just barely trying and just fold and complain that the game is too unforgiving.
You are going against the top clan. You will be undergeared and in most cases undermanned. Your members will have to spend 10 times more effort than their members cuz they can divide work. You will need to camp raids hardcore, so countless hours of starting at a screen. The gear plays a role, yes, but the gear isn’t always the reason top clan conquers, and i speak from personal experience, from both a dom clan and an underdog clan.
“They become what they swore to destroy “?! Lmao. Sometimes the top clan is a corrupt clan that needed taking down and now a decent clan is at the top, which is good for the entire server.
Also you do realize drama and unfriendly competition between people exist do u? Would be funny for me to accuse epona of not letting blacklisted people from rolling on bosses and experiencing endgame right? Cuz I don’t think any decent, non corrupt dom clan would try and prevent someone from experiencing endgame other than blacklisted people.
As for a person who simply do not want to join the dom clan for what ever reason (and from experience, its mostly because they dont like the distribution system) i tell them go work ur ass off with other determined people and overtake them. The dom clan didn’t get there in a span of a day and night, they spent even more recourses, hours and effort that makes that individual’s effort irrelevant lol.
Back on topic a little bit; clan owned gear.
Im pretty much on the same page of some others here. Each clan has rules. If you join a clan if means u agree to their rules. If they state that all items are the property of the clan, which most clans do, then either respect that rule or simply don’t join. No one is forcing u to join and u have other options like working hard and overtaking the clan, but it aint gonna be a walk in the park.
I personally don’t think a clan should harass and send people to harass those who agreed to that rule then left off with items anyway, i would report anyone that harasses cuz its simply against ToS, but again, as other respectively stated, do not expect to be praised upon if u try to xfer out and the other server asks your former clan about ur behavior