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New skills + buffs

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:08 pm
by Meck
If any Admins can answer this in the best way they can it would be appreciated.

Will we see any upgrades to skills such as for rogues will we see dmg increases in skills like rend, buffs on skills like play dead, reflexes etc making them useful, (reflex is useful but isnt exactly used a lot) it would be good to see these skills come into the game and im sure the admins already have ideas with play dead etc for the pvp side of the game.

Also will we see any new skills in the mear future whether its this or next update? It has been a long time since we last had new skills put into the game and it would be interesting to see a new skill added for each class whether its boss specific or can be used anywhere in general.

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:03 am
by Ventius
Rend needs absolutely no buffing. Its already incredibly strong. Fast reflex is a leveling skill and a great one at that. Needs nothing done to it.

Play dead would be cool to get a rework. Something like AoE skills wont affect you whilst play dead is active

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:21 am
by krummy9552
Ventius wrote:Rend needs absolutely no buffing. Its already incredibly strong. Fast reflex is a leveling skill and a great one at that. Needs nothing done to it.

Play dead would be cool to get a rework. Something like AoE skills wont affect you whilst play dead is active


This has been a popular play dead revision idea over the years always a +1 from me,

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:37 am
by Warsong
krummy9552 wrote:
Ventius wrote:Rend needs absolutely no buffing. Its already incredibly strong. Fast reflex is a leveling skill and a great one at that. Needs nothing done to it.

Play dead would be cool to get a rework. Something like AoE skills wont affect you whilst play dead is active


This has been a popular play dead revision idea over the years always a +1 from me,

I agree with Vent here^ I don't think any dps skills for rogues need buffing.

Play dead being a viable skill in Raids would be awesome, BUT it would hands down make rogues like myself with 14k hp sigils invincible if AoE didn't have an effect while play dead was active.

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:34 am
by Ventius
Warsong wrote:
krummy9552 wrote:
Ventius wrote:Rend needs absolutely no buffing. Its already incredibly strong. Fast reflex is a leveling skill and a great one at that. Needs nothing done to it.

Play dead would be cool to get a rework. Something like AoE skills wont affect you whilst play dead is active


This has been a popular play dead revision idea over the years always a +1 from me,

I agree with Vent here^ I don't think any dps skills for rogues need buffing.

Play dead being a viable skill in Raids would be awesome, BUT it would hands down make rogues like myself with 14k hp sigils invincible if AoE didn't have an effect while play dead was active.
i dont really have an issue with that. While you use play dead you deal 0 dps. It is a survival skill that can be cast at the expense of reduced dps. For sigils to kick in you waste 7 seconds of potential dps. Imagine it saves you recasting poison weaps, you lose 5 seconds of dps which is a bit over 4 autos and your skills are also put on hold

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:46 am
by Warsong
Ventius wrote:
Warsong wrote:
krummy9552 wrote:
This has been a popular play dead revision idea over the years always a +1 from me,

I agree with Vent here^ I don't think any dps skills for rogues need buffing.

Play dead being a viable skill in Raids would be awesome, BUT it would hands down make rogues like myself with 14k hp sigils invincible if AoE didn't have an effect while play dead was active.
i dont really have an issue with that. While you use play dead you deal 0 dps. It is a survival skill that can be cast at the expense of reduced dps. For sigils to kick in you waste 7 seconds of potential dps. Imagine it saves you recasting poison weaps, you lose 5 seconds of dps which is a bit over 4 autos and your skills are also put on hold

Damn, my bad I meant to say during PvP*

Right now in arena people use their aoe skills when rogues use play dead so they can sigil. Or DoTs.

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:17 pm
by Criminal
Rend needs dmg boost like rupture's DoT does.

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:20 pm
by Meck
Ventius wrote:Rend needs absolutely no buffing. Its already incredibly strong. Fast reflex is a leveling skill and a great one at that. Needs nothing done to it.

Play dead would be cool to get a rework. Something like AoE skills wont affect you whilst play dead is active

I can see where youre coming from tbh, but in my eyes I wouldnt say rend is incrediby strong, dont get me wrong it is a good skill but I dont see the damage from it being amazing unless you have high end gear, the likes of bt gear, when it comes to a mid tier player the damage wont usually pass 1k per tick unless the player is full strength and even for end game players with pierce lure etc their rend will usually be able 2k per tick on the boss if im not mistaken although the skill dmg will show more. With the current bosses out having an insane amount of hp I feel like it would be a nice add on if the dmg per tick did get a little buff, not a major one but just a small buff.

With regards to fast reflexes I can agree that it is a good leveling and hybrid skill for just rogues getting bored wanting to tank edl, but id say fast reflexes is only really useful for low end - mid tier players, just because if you see a lvl 220+ rogue lixing they would usually just go with dps skills over support skills but thats just my pov on it, it would be nice to see fast reflexes buff def, att and max hp or max energy on the player. As most know when running a rogue without bt gear its hard to get 6k+ hp without running a hybrid build, could be too op but would make the skill useful again for end game rogues as it doesnt get used a lot currently like play dead.

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:52 pm
by Criminal
Meck wrote:
Ventius wrote:Rend needs absolutely no buffing. Its already incredibly strong. Fast reflex is a leveling skill and a great one at that. Needs nothing done to it.

Play dead would be cool to get a rework. Something like AoE skills wont affect you whilst play dead is active

I can see where youre coming from tbh, but in my eyes I wouldnt say rend is incrediby strong, dont get me wrong it is a good skill but I dont see the damage from it being amazing unless you have high end gear, the likes of bt gear, when it comes to a mid tier player the damage wont usually pass 1k per tick unless the player is full strength and even for end game players with pierce lure etc their rend will usually be able 2k per tick on the boss if im not mistaken although the skill dmg will show more. With the current bosses out having an insane amount of hp I feel like it would be a nice add on if the dmg per tick did get a little buff, not a major one but just a small buff.

With regards to fast reflexes I can agree that it is a good leveling and hybrid skill for just rogues getting bored wanting to tank edl, but id say fast reflexes is only really useful for low end - mid tier players, just because if you see a lvl 220+ rogue lixing they would usually just go with dps skills over support skills but thats just my pov on it, it would be nice to see fast reflexes buff def, att and max hp or max energy on the player. As most know when running a rogue without bt gear its hard to get 6k+ hp without running a hybrid build, could be too op but would make the skill useful again for end game rogues as it doesnt get used a lot currently like play dead.

Except it ticks every 2 secs instead of 5.

Re: New skills + buffs

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:28 am
by Difinitus
The next update won't have any changes to skills, as the focus is the new raid boss. However, I know a lot of players would like to see skill and class balancing, so that's what I will push for in our next planning meeting.