Celtic Heroes

Hey everyone :-)
I am taking some time to address some topics posted that have framed problems or complaints about Resurgence or its feeder clan, Braves.
As a disclaimer: replying to this thread with a rant, will not solve your problems, if you want a viable solution that carries over in game you will need to pm a leader, I can assist with Braves related matters, but for the best affect PM either LoneHawk or BigDiesel379.

Now that we have that out of the way, let's get into addressing some of the complaints.

First off, Resurgence and its members are not perfect... No one is, pretending we don't make mistakes would be hypocritical and pointless, as such don't hold us to an impossible standard... Allow us the same leniency on making mistakes that you would want for us to grant you and your clan.


Complaint One: Issra

This has to stop!

I can speak for DS but I assume the other clans have faced this issue with "Your" clan too.

"This is a group of people who don't want to be liked or care about being liked by the rest of the server, they don't play to make friends" what are you saying?!
Let people play how they want to play. Stop the criticism. Just because they arent as powerful as your "clan" doenst allow you to judge them in any negative way. They took off with some items who cares, I heard many stories that their ppl ran off to your clan too. Please provide balanced arguments.

"Res has tried to have a positive relationship", I have been ksed left to right, that clan ladies and gentleman has wasted 200$ of my hard earned money. Before this so called terms were there I've been insulted multiple times. Whilst waiting for a boss, whilst lixing! I have contacted support about this and not even they are helping me when I AM HARRASSED IN GAME. I can speak for all clans on this server when I say that Resurgence is made up of Bullies. Whenever I bring this to their leaders they blow it off. All your new members think that they are the 'cool' guys because that clan kills all the high bosses but let me tell you, y'all are bullies. Everyday we get confronted by this! Everyday the same insults when is this going to stop??

"Arawn is a poor case", what are you even talking about. All YOU do here on forum is to promote how good your clan is doing. Arawn is not about 1 clan its about the whole server. When are you going to go out of your box and see what around you. You have no right whatsoever to talk about any clan but your own. YOU dont know what it is to be harrassed all day long.

"Arawn has 0 griefing" this was introduced not long ago, but before that whoah you guys loved it. I heard most of that clan is waiting to continue that.

Now to all the people that tell me to block them, they keep harrassing their 'enemies' until they quit playing and create lvl 1 toons to bother you. OUT of game they find you and they tell us we have no life! Let me tell you they harrassed even their own members and thats the reason why they leave.

SUPPORT WHEN ARE YOU HELPING US?!!! I have sent countless of emails and ingame messages.

Sorry for my frustration but it had to get out but all forum has become is the race to who has killed the most Gelebron. Where is the unity?! Small clans are fully being negelcted.

You seem to be making confusing claims. Resurgence and DragonSouls entered into an arrangement a few months ago, Res would help DS kill bosses and such and in return Res wanted nothing really... We had one tiny condition which was basically that if DS invites anyone res kicked we would no longer help. I mean why would we help those we kicked at bosses? Doesn't make sense right? After DS recruited 2 members we kicked they terminated the agreement and that was that...

Because of the agreement we had I am 100% confused as to why this is the first time your complaints are being brought up. If you can speak for DS I would hope you are a member of DS, otherwise that is a flat out lie that you can speak for them, and under that why did you never go to Liv with your problems with res? If someone is violating the rules that res sets up we can't do anything about it if we don't know about it... Keeping these things in until now doesn't help and just allows whatever the problem is to continue... If you want to tell me more about whatever happened please send me or LoneHawk or BigDiesel379 a pm so we can work to rectify whatever happened. Making a forum post like you did on the general discussion subforum is a way to start drama, not a way to fix issues.

It's because of agreements like the one we made with DS that Res is a bad case for the OP of that thread you commented on. Res has an antigriefing policy (once again, if you expierenced anything contrary to this send a pm to myself or LoneHawk or BigDiesel379). Furthemore, res formed an agreement that helped only DS, a smaller competitive clan, and gave no benefit to Res excpet we got to help others out. How are we some sadistic sabatoging evil dominant clan if we form agreements just to help others with no reward to ourselves?

I'm sorry but judging from your post it seems you haven't played on arawn in a long time... Everything you have said is just a flat out lie under current and recent pretenses and circumstances. idk when the past time you played on arawn was but Res has had these policies in place for years, so my question remains, why is this the first time you have told anyone?



Resurgence doesn't want to stunt other clans from growing. Of course we want to lock all the bosses that we need to gear our clansmen, but asside from engaging in lock fights Resurgence has no ill will to stopping other clans from getting their gear. If you outlock us you outlocked us, the boss is yours, if you wipe we retry to lock. But we won't grief you or try and cause you to wipe and lose the lock.

Complaint 2 - Jaegar

From Units and Colors in Arawn to Aeq in Balor, Celtic heroes seems to get its fair share of negativity. Of course this is normal for a game, but ive just recently come back from a break just to see even more drama. Clearly this will never stop, but OTM refuses to adress the issue publicly, and if they wont i will. I think its time we start doing something about these monopoly clans and scammers. Celtic heroes isnt even fun anymore. The only thriving server is Epona, and the rest are either dead or in some type of drama. Stop. I am making this post because I dont know a permanant solution to the problem but maybe one of you do. Please reply. Thank you

Reply 1, posted this as a reply to the OP here

Only replying to this thread because you are indirectly trashing my clan and server....
Unit and Colours receive negativity from the rest of the server for some pretty good reason. The clan's membership is 95% ex-resurgence members who were kicked for a variety of reasons from scamming, gear selling, harassment, etc... the other 5% minus 2 members that I can name off the top of my head are individuals black listed either for scamming, harassment, the spam sending of unsolicited hello kitty. And those 2 I brought up, both quit long ago... but I include them because they bear the clan name and are good people. This is a group of people who don't want to be liked or care about being liked by the rest of the server, they don't play to make friends, they play to gear themselves (which is fine) at the cost of anyone else (not fine). Res has tried to have a positive relationship with their leaders but being blown off once by their leaders isn't the way to get liked... We went for a friendly handshake and greeting and they slammed the door, that's that.

Don't bring up a clan/server that you obviously don't understand... Arawn is a poor case for an evil dominant clan structure like your OP suggests. Up until this past week Res even helped lower clans kill bosses, but after that lower clan this week trash talked us for not tanking and killing a snorri for them (they only had 4 people online...) and broke the arrangement where they wouldn't poach res members we went back to just not helping them, but even then we do nothing to hamper them. Arawn is a perfect example of healthy competition amongst clans, unit/colours is an exception but they are rarely active anymore ( go figure, clans that exist soley on hateing everyone else don't last all that long), and every server has a scammer hang out cllan...

Not every server with a main "dominant" clan has a bad "dominant" clan... Arawn has 0 griefing and we don't hamper other clans from starting up. We exist and have open recruitment so long as you are not an a-hole, and of course we try and recruit new players, but we don't do anything to prevent lower clans from succeeding other than try to lock bosses that we still need drops from. We don't camp bosses we don't need nor do we purposefully try to outlock them just to outlock them.

This is the true case. I was in Unit/Colours previous clan (same members just different name) Bada Bing... I quit the game for over a year because I couldn't take their negativity anymore, their outlook on the game and others. The "leader" was always paranoid that others were trying to hack into her account and that everyone else who played the game just wanted to prevent her from getting geared (100% crazy...), on top of that she spammed others who she felt were out to get her with hello kitty (disgusting). But since she did all of this over 3rd party software nothing could be done about it in game. She claims she was spammed first but when asked for proof she can't provide it, yet there is plenty of evidence that she was the first aggressor...
I don't say what I say lightly, everything I posted with regards to them is from my experience as one of them. There is a reason the only res who go to unit/colours (except 2, one of which left because we wouldn't gear his alts as a main... the other left and has since gone inactive) were kicked from res, yet we have had 10 or so come from unit/colours to res...

Regarding the previous posts,

Good for you that you were in Unit and/or Colours. Sorry to hear that you have felt negativity towards the clan(s) in which you were in. I can ensure that this negativity does not exist (my perspective). Unit has always been a very small clan (>25 members) and in order to compete with the rest we have to be strict with times and logging. This as it seems wasn't for you and that perfectly fine. You found a new home with a different culture. We are a very tight family as much as all the rest of the clans in Arawn.

Nowadays (past aside), our clan saw a steady increase of players and has been working with Colours for a long time now. If you would like to check out Unit or Colors feel free to message any of the clan members.

Jaegar, you are entitled to your own opinion. Again, if you would like to check out Unit or Colours feel free to message any of the clan members.
Issra, maybe transfering to another server would help out.

We can discuss clans all day long but as long as you haven't been in the ones that you are talking about you can never come to conclusions.
Competition will always remain in Arawn, check out what all the clans have to offer and I can assure you that one will have what you are looking for.

Lets keep this respectful.

Nighty

First of all how was i trashtalking resurgence or your server. I was just simply stating that there is a problem in celtic heroes which needs to be adressed and i used random servers as an example. I already apologized, i dont know if you want me to *** beg you.

First of all how was i trashtalking resurgence or your server. I was just simply stating that there is a problem in celtic heroes which needs to be adressed and i used random servers as an example. I already apologized, i dont know if you want me to ****** beg you.

You legitimately said that every server except Epona is full of drama and is dying... How can you expect NOT to catch crap from everyone in a active, live, and raid-oriented clan not on Epona?

So what you're saying is that theres no drama on arawn?

So what you're saying is that theres no drama on arawn?

Can't speak for Arawn, I don't play there. Just pointing out something general that you said in your earlier post.

I wouldnt say res wanted nothing from the arrangement with ds. Well im not in res so i guess i shouldnt say so, but from the perspective of a ds member i wouldnt say res helped us purely from the kindness of their hearts. Unit and colours were often dominating s and t. There often was times when ds or res alone would not have been able to outlock the comp. Only together in a mix clan group would we have been able to. Thats what I believe the agreement was for, to change a losing battle into one that is winnable. If it was purely just to help us, there wouldnt have been times when ds and res were competing separately at s and t during the months that the agreement ran. Neither would res have rolled on drops in the mix group if all they wanted to do was help ds. I will say tho, ds did get the most out of our alliance because often at the time the agreement was made, ds normally had a small lock group, and res did give us quite a bit of drops while the alliance ran. So yea we benefitted from working together. I would say it was a lie bob, that res "wanted nothing" from the alliance, cause you guys beneffited as well. Maybe not to the same extent as ds but res did.


And what do you mean by us poaching res members? We did not go around asking res members if they would like to join us. Some just left res and pmed our leaders asking if they could join us. For some of them, they were just not enjoying res and wanted a change in environment. Nothing wrong with that. Not complely related to the topic, but i remeber seeing in old valiant mox binders how res leaders were asking val members to join res, telling them how much better res is than val. Thats what i would call poaching, but to each their own. Anyways those res members that asked to join, we didnt take their request lightly. It was discussed among us, and we would ask some res members about them(often the clansman in res just had good things to say about the ones we took in(maybe not relevant but they said good things about the character of the person, opposite to the description some res leaders would tell us), before voting on if we would accept their request to join

Thanks for the ds perspective i wanted to see a post from someone who wasnt from resurgence but from another clan in arawn

2 things.

1. Resurgence in most eyes out of context would see we probably didnt gain anything in 2-3 months except a healthier relationship with another clan. Honestly i haven’t seen res gain anything from it and im in the clan. Resurgence held up their side of the agreement since one was made until just recently when things changed between clans but the reasons are not relevant to the post, just the timetable.

2. I was making this post, saved it as a draft during class, came back... ‘’What was my second point?’’

Regarding the previous posts,

Hey Night,
Thanks for typing up a response, but I don't appreciate it when people use 100% *** to discredit another... And before you jump saying "Oh no he didn't!" read what I have to say. Only thing I hate worse than lies being used as arguments is when people respond without reading a single word that the other typed up about what they said...

Good for you that you were in Unit and/or Colours. Sorry to hear that you have felt negativity towards the clan(s) in which you were in. I can ensure that this negativity does not exist (my perspective). Unit has always been a very small clan (>25 members) and in order to compete with the rest we have to be strict with times and logging. This as it seems wasn't for you and that perfectly fine. You found a new home with a different culture. We are a very tight family as much as all the rest of the clans in Arawn.

It always was a small clan as the coleader (ya I realize Henry is chief... but you know exactly who I'm talking about) wanted to make sure she didn't have to gear too many people. Back when I was in bada I asked her about recruiting and she said no because she didn't want to have to gear others.
And yes I remember the strict logging times... I got scolded and told I would not be allowed to gain any new gear from the clan for not being able to log while I was at my cousins wedding, at a debate tournament, oh and what were the other two times? oh ya school exams... Good thing I had my phone muted during all of that or else I would have seen the angry pms over kik...
She told me straight on that if I couldn't log always when I was needed there was no reason for me to be in the clan. Those were her words right to me as I was dual logging to camp troll with her. After that message I logged off and quit for over a year. Sorry, but camping for a psycho isn't more important than going to my exams.

Nowadays (past aside), our clan saw a steady increase of players and has been working with Colours for a long time now. If you would like to check out Unit or Colors feel free to message any of the clan members.

By steady growth you mean as Res kicks people Unit gains a few. All but 2 people active in Unit either came from res or were 100% blacklisted. From that standpoint, unit was the only option for all but 2 people.

We can discuss clans all day long but as long as you haven't been in the ones that you are talking about you can never come to conclusions.
Competition will always remain in Arawn, check out what all the clans have to offer and I can assure you that one will have what you are looking for.

Ooh ooh, pick me. I was in the clan. The clan is the exact same as when Sape and Bada worked together, no difference. I have talked to people who have now since gone inactive who are in unit and they said it "is the same as bada" when trying to recruit me when I first rejoined the game.

Lets keep this respectful.

Hmmm... Nightmaare wants respect... Odd.... what was the first thing Night said to me when I returned to the game. Oh ya... Without me saying a word to or about Night, Night randomly shouts in OW that I
1) stole gear from bada (ya, I left with a dark fire storm hrung skull i won from boss... ya thats it, what about all the res gear unit has stole, as in scammed from players... Not just people who left, but people who scammed gear?)
2) Asked to join unit and was denied, then to be mocked by Night for 2 minutes. First off, I never wanted to join, Doc and Kiethten wanted to persuade me to join and said they would try and get bella to be okay with it... I said "Do what you want but I'm not interested in joining unit, I think i'm going to try and join resurgence this time around."
3) Shouting I'm a scammer, like when or what have I ever scammed?

You want respect? Well then, why did you start it by cussing out someone you had never met? Someone who you only knew things about from the old leader of bada, who is why I quit the game...




I'm sorry you are so disillusioned night... Unit may be a "home" but it isn't a place where you can live. I got punished for going to school over logging for hrung. What kind of home is that?

I wouldnt say res wanted nothing from the arrangement with ds. Well im not in res so i guess i shouldnt say so, but from the perspective of a ds member i wouldnt say res helped us purely from the kindness of their hearts. Unit and colours were often dominating s and t. There often was times when ds or res alone would not have been able to outlock the comp. Only together in a mix clan group would we have been able to. Thats what I believe the agreement was for, to change a losing battle into one that is winnable. If it was purely just to help us, there wouldnt have been times when ds and res were competing separately at s and t during the months that the agreement ran. Neither would res have rolled on drops in the mix group if all they wanted to do was help ds. I will say tho, ds did get the most out of our alliance because often at the time the agreement was made, ds normally had a small lock group, and res did give us quite a bit of drops while the alliance ran. So yea we benefitted from working together. I would say it was a lie bob, that res "wanted nothing" from the alliance, cause you guys beneffited as well. Maybe not to the same extent as ds but res did.


And what do you mean by us poaching res members? We did not go around asking res members if they would like to join us. Some just left res and pmed our leaders asking if they could join us. For some of them, they were just not enjoying res and wanted a change in environment. Nothing wrong with that. Not complely related to the topic, but i remeber seeing in old valiant mox binders how res leaders were asking val members to join res, telling them how much better res is than val. Thats what i would call poaching, but to each their own. Anyways those res members that asked to join, we didnt take their request lightly. It was discussed among us, and we would ask some res members about them(often the clansman in res just had good things to say about the ones we took in(maybe not relevant but they said good things about the character of the person, opposite to the description some res leaders would tell us), before voting on if we would accept their request to join

The agreement may have been origionally for mutual advantage at S/T, but unit went MIA as always about a week after the agreement was made, and guess what, we kept to the agreement. The agreement was not just soley for S/T, we wanted to help in general. So yes, at the very start there was some mutual advantage, but we kept it going long after when there was only advantage to DS, because we wanted to.

The poached member isn't what broke the agreement, your recruitment of a scammer who scammed gear from our clan, and another who we kicked for deliberate account stealing and blackmailing is what broke the agreement. We kicked them, and we will not help a clan that they are in. Would you help someone your clan kicked kill bosses? the answer is an obvious no and thats it. There is no fine print, its just common sense why we wouldn't carry on helping you guys at bosses.

You all obviously have 100% autonomy over who you recruit, and thats your buisness. All res said was, okay just know we can no longer help you at bosses. That was it.

So what you're saying is that theres no drama on arawn?

The drama on arawn is nothing compared to almost every other server. Herne and morrigan to name an example... the only drama at all occurs between the few ex resurgence members that were kicked that haven't quit yet and those in res, but even then this is a rarity, so rare that I wouldn't even bother to count it...
There will always be some castle noob claiming someone scammed him or her for attention, but if you count that, then, well, there ya go. Asside from that Arawn lacks any real substantive drama.

First of all how was i trashtalking resurgence or your server. I was just simply stating that there is a problem in celtic heroes which needs to be adressed and i used random servers as an example. I already apologized, i dont know if you want me to ****** beg you.

Don't use random servers... There are plenty of obvious examples if you spent more than 5 minutes looking... I accept the apology, but you started this whole thing and now I have to take time away from school work to clean it all up...

First of all how was i trashtalking resurgence or your server. I was just simply stating that there is a problem in celtic heroes which needs to be adressed and i used random servers as an example. I already apologized, i dont know if you want me to ****** beg you.

You legitimately said that every server except Epona is full of drama and is dying... How can you expect NOT to catch crap from everyone in a active, live, and raid-oriented clan not on Epona?

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